Trump must give his tax returns to NY prosecutor, judge rules

trump never sued, he exercised his right to challenge the it.

what circumstances? Trump has done business in NYC long before Vance was even in office...if he wanted to attempt to get them he had plenty of rime before trump beat Clinton...but he waited..why? politics. The very motive the SCOTUS was worried about

 

oh SCOTUS gave Congress the tax returns? oh no.
sorry you are still wrong

 

Yes they do, of course they do.

 

Though the investigation goes beyond Trump's hush money payments to his mistresses, those are obviously what initially triggered this, particularly Cohen's testimony that the purpose of the payments was to sway the election and AMI's decision to cooperate in exchange for immunity. Those things happened after Trump was elected.

 

Cohen was, indeed, charged with said campaign violation -- a violation that the SDNY says they have evidence that Trump directed.

 

Which supports my original point. Nice to see you have returned to reality.

 

No, he's right. SCOTUS did, indeed, rule that POTUS is not immune from Congressional subpoenas. They provided a litmus test for what would constitute a lawful subpoena and referred the case back to the lower court.

 

The McDougal payment was not an NDA; I'd have to check on the Stormy payment to confirm, but I don't think that was an NDA either. Could be wrong there. And an NDA would still be illegal if its purpose was to help the campaign and it was not reported as a campaign donation.

 

so why is he asking for tax returns from way before that??

 

@Booman as well: it isn't just his tax returns that have been subpoenaed. It's a trove of business documents. Previously leaked documents have shown that Trump keeps two books, which is typically a sign of tax fraud, bank fraud, or both. They could reveal quite a bit, especially if they continue to show that he is reporting one set of numbers for tax purposes and another to set of numbers to secure loans.

 

so Congess didn’t get them...thought so

 

I answered that in the first sentence of the post you just quoted.

 

That wasn't his claim. He never said Congress got them. The thing he actually stated was a true statement. You should read it.

 

no it’s not...he likely has many more then that as well personal, trump organization, and the numerous holdings

 

he said what the Sec of Tres did was illegal by not turning them over. It wasn’t

 

Yes, it very, very much is. Ask anyone who has taken an accounting class.

 

Which they likely turned over to Vance when they realized they could take it no further while Trump was POTUS...

 

i have taken them. People don’t mix their personal accounting with their businesses. That could be an example of fraud if he did.

 

campaign fin is not a state crime. if they had it they turned it over the mueller who would have redommended an indictment and he would have been impeached. But the reality is there was no crime on trumps part

 

That's not what "keeping two books" means. Keeping two books means that the SAME ENTITY keeps two different sets of books that report different numbers in the same year for the same entries. This is typically a sign of tax fraud, bank fraud, or both. I guess we could throw in a third possibility of investment fraud.

He's reported different values for the same assets in the same year: a lower number when reporting for taxes and a higher one when securing a loan. I'm sorry, but if you can't come to terms with the fact that this is typically a sign of fraud, then no, you've never taken an accounting class.

 

If, as Cohen testified, Trump claimed these mistress payments as a business expense, there's a state case there too.

 

what you are describing isn’t evidence of two books...that happens all the time with real estate...or even a car...what my tax value is isn’t the same of what i value it for a loan or to sell it. The tax value is much lower

 

i don’t believe he claimed that but even so a NDA can be a business expense.

the point is though the NDA was never actually executed. Trump signed nothing. Cohn was asked to but didn’t do it. Paid out of pocket then asked for the money back via his monthly retainer . it was malpractice on his part

 

The value here involves occupancy of the properties. He reported different occupancy rates in the same year: a lower number when filing taxes and a higher number when trying to secure loans. Keep in mind his children have been caught doing the same thing: defrauding investors by fraudulently inflating occupancy rates.

 

I took accounting classes a million years ago in high school, but that's not remotely a factor for me recognizing your point.....