Trump ordered to pay over $350M for business fraud

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  1. Bush Lawyer

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    Is SCOTUS corrupt?
     
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    Essentially making real estate sales completely illegal in the state of New York.

    A good thing for people to do is do not offer any professional real estate services at all.

    Kind of like when Colorado sentenced that truck driver to a thousand years in jail for the brakes failing on his truck. And truckers just didn't deliver anything in Colorado.
     
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    This is a wet dream for you guys isn't it the fact is you can just write a check for it.
     
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    I think that really all just depends on your position on abortion.
     
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    Why do you ask that question??
     
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    Only answer is yes because all forms of government and all government bodies are corrupt. But the reason he's asking is not really about that it's about if supreme Court doesn't do what he wants then it's corrupt kind of like they're ruling on roe v Wade.
     
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    To get you committed before SCOTUS drops one on Humpty***. When that happens, I don't want to hear you say it is corrupt AFTER the event.

    *Rapist
    *Swindler
    *Bordering on pathological
     
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    Commited to what??
     
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    Is SCOTUS corrupt?
     
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    LOL

    Trump's lawyers tried to switch the addresses of his NY businesses to brand new FL addresses. Of course the prosecution and the judge put an end to it right away.

    So much criminal energy.

    So much stupiditx.

    MAGA!
     
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    Justices who think that the Constitution of the United States is a living document are not performing their duties per the Constitution.
     
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    Square footage is subjective? An apartment can grow and shrink?

    Wow.
     
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    Now the statute applies only to consumer transactions?

    That’s rank ignorance. It would say so if it was limited in that way and it was plainly written for a broad application.

    Trump and his mentally deficient sons violated the NY law repeatedly. They’re rightly facing the consequences for choosing to lie and cheat on the value of their assets.

    Keep coming up with ludicrous arguments guys.
     
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    Multiple sources posted in this thread from law professors and prominent attorneys have stated that the law was a consumer fraud legislation.
     
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    The amount of square footage included in the three story Trump penthouse is subjective based on the definition of what is included in the penthouse. Trump is free to define that area as he sees fit and publish that square footage in whatever documents he chooses with a disclaimer (which was included) that the definition of the area might be calculated differently by different entities.
     
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    I'm a lawyer. A very basic tenet of statutory interpretation is that plain statutory language means what it says, and does not mean what it does not say.

    NOWHERE does it limit itself to consumer transactions. NOWHERE. That's an absurd interpretation. Maybe if you read anything, you'd see that.
     
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    Different entities measure differently? You can expand an apartment from 10k to 30k by the way you measure?

    That's just painful. LOL!
     
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    The Trumpies are swirling down the drain of insanity with these facially ridiculous theories. Sorry, but it’s true.
     
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    Trump changed the surface area of his condo three times in the same year.

    Once for insurance, once for the IRS and once more for the bank.

    His condo went from 11,000 sq. ft. to 30,000.

    Trump Acknowledged Penthouse Size at 11,000 Square Feet, not 30,000 He Later Claimed
     
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    Well, that was only because different entities measured it, silly.
     
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    No, it was not, and no they didn’t. Your source doesn’t even say that. You should actually read what’s posted.

    READ THE DECISION!
     
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    Again it depends on whether the entire area of the three floors are counted or what is normally defined as the living space. A square 60 feet on each side times three floors is ~ 11,000 square feet. A square 100 feet on each side times three floors is ~ 30,000 square feet. Regardless there is a disclaimer to cover any discrepancies.

     
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    There are multiple sources.
     
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    Maybe if you actually took the time to investigate the origins and history of the legislation you would understand that the intent of the law was consumer protection and that the only times (12) that large settlements were imposed victims and damages were required. The GET TRUMP prosecutor and judge manufactured a judgment using an obscure law to GET TRUMP by using the Stalinesque process of manufacturing a crime to get the man.

    You might be interested in this book: It describes what is going on in the US and what was done to Trump.

    Silverglate, Harvey A. ; Silverglate, Harvey. Three Felonies A Day: How the Feds Target the Innocent . Encounter Books. Kindle Edition.
     
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    You're hurting yourself.

    Trump admitted in court that he lied about the square footage of his condo and a bunch of other stuff too.

    All this is described in detail in the Engoron judgment.
     
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