Trump, Pence, Pompeo Lied About Soleimani

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  1. Goomba

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    And he was right.
     
  2. Goomba

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    Right... and you want to convince us that the American Constitution was not written by educated men from Anglo-Saxon communities. Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but you refuse to accept it because your emotions are getting in the way.
     
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    Ya know, yes Trump is a bs artist. But his lies aren't what makes leftists man.

    What makes leftist Democrats triggered?

    When he tells the truth!!

    Yup Hati is a ****hole

    Baltimore is a democraticly run ,corrupt rat infested dump

    Ms 13 members are animals

    Iran is the bad guy..

    All true statements leftists get irate about .

    They angry about Mexico not paying for the wall nope. It's the truth that makes them go insane.
     
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    You do know that the Constitution was written over 250 years ago right? That we are not the same country today as we were back then? By golly gee slavery doesn't even exist anymore and we've even had a black president voted on by a majority of the country! TWICE!

    Seriously though...just stop. It's a worn out card that, thanks to identitarians, is no longer taken seriously by anyone except themselves.
     
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    @Observing ... as you can now see, it has to do with responding to a specific post... try following the context before spouting off on a tangent ;)
     
  6. Starjet

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    He’s a bug. To learn what to do with bugs watch Starship Troopers or Aliens (Hicks and Ripley understand) (Hint: Trump squished him).
     
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    yeah right... so by your definition saddam wasn't a terrorist either, because he wore a uniform and commanded an army :rolleyes:
     
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    So was/is Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin, Castro, Gaddafi, bin Laden, Lenin, Marx, Jong-un, Xi etc. Question for you, which of the above made this famous quote? “Death is the solution to all problems-no man, no problem.”
     
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    So if Pence goes on a diplomatic mission to Saudi Arabia and an Iranian drone takes him out, that's cool? Because that's what Trump just did. Trump ernes extra scumbag points by being the lying bastard that requested said diplomatic mission. Entire civilizations have been wiped out for such acts of dishonor.
     
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    Wrong! Bethlehem doctrine my azz.

    Pompeo bases his language on the War Powers Act which was passed into law in 1973 when Daniel Bethlehem was just a small child.

    Craig Murray is an idiot.
     
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    I am actually curious to see if Pence, Pompeo or any serious military or political figure in the US will be flying into the region anytime soon! While a perfect, 'eye for an eye', response would involve a drone attack (which Iran could carry out), other responses could see such planes carrying these officials simply blow out of the air. The US has basically opened a Pandora's box.
     
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    stop pretending that this is a trump issue... drone strikes upon civilians has in fact occurred since before 2006 with the many being during obama's reign...

    whine a river for something creditable rather than this petty nuisance crap...
     
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    This, more than the deaths themselves, is the real issue. Nobody in conflict with the US is going to talk terms because they'll suspect a setup and our enemies have moral standing to assassinate American leadership, even under flag of truce. If I was an American diplomat assigned to a nation outside Western Europe, I'd be very worried right now.
     
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    This isn't a drone strike on a civilian. It was a drone strike on Iranian/Iraqi LEADERSHIP in Iraq's capital while said leadership was on an American instigated diplomatic mission followed by American threats of economic warfare and commiting of war crimes when Iran/Iraq cried foul.
     
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    You’re comparing Vice President Pence to a terrorist? I bet you also view genocide as ethnic cleansing.
     
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    Am I comparing a Domanationist to the equivalent of the CIA? No, no I'm not.
     
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    Before Russia entered the war in Syria and they began monitoring flights, our jets were dropping our missiles on the desert. When Moscow asked Kerry why we weren't bombing the thousands of tanker trucks carrying oil from Raqqa to Turkey in exchange for arms, Kerry gave the flimsy excuse that they didn't want to bomb innocent people. It wasn't until Moscow began bombing the trucks that we joined in.

    As for the FSA we were training, arming and supporting, they were part of Al Nusra - as are the White Helmets. All pretenses ended recently when the FSA were sent into Northern Syria by Turkey to carry out the genocide and ethnic cleansing of the area before the Turkish troops arrived.



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    You have trouble differentiating between Jack the Ripper and Christian Benard because they both used scalpels? Very superficial.
     
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    Genocide is ethnic cleansing and visa versa. When one wants to ethnically cleanse an area, they start killing the inhabitants to get them to leave. If they don't, then they're dead.

    The world is gasping at Trump not the Mullahs who have been quite patient and have a right to their countries sovereignty. I voted for Trump with the belief that his ego was big enough to fight the swamp in Washington. Instead of fighting them though he's joined them and his ego has grown accordingly. It's only a matter of time before he becomes a god. Caligula anyone?

     
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    I see tyrants have a right to exist, free men don't. Sad. And excuse me. Trump an egoist? Oh, he may be an egotist, but he isn't even close to being an egoist.

    Egoist: His self-worth comes from within
    Egotist: His self-worth comes from those who grovel before him.

    Only an egoist has an ego; an egotist is filled with nothing but the longing pain of an empty soul betrayed by its owner, a pain that only the worship by others can numb.

    An egoist seeks not the approval of others, he seeks a life of goodness.
     
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    You're labelling rather than giving facts so people can form their own opinion. The possibility exists that the diplomatic mission Soleimani was on could lead to a situation that would be harmful to us, but the possibility also exists that any diplomatic mission people are on could be harmful to us. It doesn't give Trump the right to kill him.

    The damage Trump did to diplomacy and world peace is immeasurable.
     
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    Come on Jeannette, be a little bit real. It's like complaining prostitutes gave Jack the Ripper a bad rep. In essence, Soleimani was Ayatollah Ali Khamenei's Frank Nitti.
     
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    He is multitasking.
     
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    "Soleimani was respected and feared, seen as either the evil mastermind behind policies of death and destruction or the genius architect of Iran’s expansionist policies. He was also hated, not only by Sunnis who suffered at the hands of his proxy militias in Syria and Iraq, but also by fellow Shias, including some in Iraq and Iran, where he helped uphold a repressive system and was seen as the man responsible for Iran’s role in costly wars abroad. He was not simply on a mission to undo the unsatisfying score of the Iran-Iraq war and make up for the conflict’s devastating death toll and the humiliation it served his country; he had become the mission, the upholder of the Islamic revolution, keeping it alive for Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei. (Soleimani was also key to defeating the Islamic State, but this served very specific purposes for the Iranian commander.)"--https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/01/qassem-soleimani-death-missed/604396/

    He was a human butchering monster with no right to life, and any free man had the right to blow him to kingdom come--and I don't believe there are any virgins in hell to comfort him, but having had never been there, I might be wrong.
     
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    He was brutal enforcer of the State. Ideologically I have nothing good to say about the man. But 100% of the stuff he did was on behalf of the Iranian government and in defence of Iranian national security. Would you call the FBI terrorists for preempting anti-government protests and militias? The NSA/CIA for rooting out spies? The Seals for attacking/sabotaging/killing enemy forces around the world? I seriously doubt it. But an Iranian guy goes after anti-government protesters and an enemy military occupation that has his country blocked in at gunpoint on 3 sides and suddenly he's a terrorist? Sure he's a threat to American interests but if that's terrorism then what are we threatening their interests?

    Take a step back and look at this objectively. We offed a top level Iranian on a diplomatic mission we asked for and our justification for backstabbing an ally and killing a man under flag of truce is that said man, a man tasked with national security, might do his ****ing job. I hope you're cool with SecDef getting assassinated while attending a NATO summit becuase that's the equivalent of what Trump ****ing did.
     

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