Trump plans to send federal law enforcement personnel to Democratic-led U.S. cities

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    The lack of response to it has the worst consequences. Ask LA residents, particularly former South Central residents how their city is doing 28 years after the police stood down during their riots.

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    20 Years After L.A. Riots, A Failed Effort For A Broken City
    April 29, 2012 6:27 AM ET
    Heard on Weekend Edition Sunday

    Ask Baltimore and St Louis residents how their cities are doing after their police stood down during rioting in those two cities 5 years ago. Oh, I’ll tell you. They are #1 and #2 in the nation.

    These are the 10 cities in America with the highest murder rates per capita:
    1. St. Louis, MO (Photos)
    2. Baltimore, MD (Photos)
    3. Jackson, MS (Photos)
    4. Birmingham, AL (Photos)
    5. Detroit, MI (Photos)
    6. New Orleans, LA (Photos)
    7. Baton Rouge, LA (Photos)
    8. Memphis, TN (Photos)
    9. Kansas City, MO (Photos)
    10. Newark, NJ (Photos)
     
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    Federallaw enforcement has been securing federal buildings since a short time after 9-11. That is good. Federal LEOs need to protect federal property not go out fishing for demonstrators to throw into unmarked vans.

    No matter if leftists, rightists ( like McVeigh) , centrists, Democrats, Republicans, Tea Partiers, KKK, or Black Supremacists are breaking feederal they need punishment. BUT Federal LEOS need to stick to protection of federal personnel and federal property. If a local authority asks for help fine but that has not happened in Oregon.

    Federal LEOS are not to aid or assist the Trump re-election campaign especially not on the taxpayers dime.
     
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    Hmm.. what does the murder rate in various cities 8 years ago have to do with anything regarding Portland??

    Distraction much?

    What was the pick pocket rate in Little Rock Arkansas in 1971?? Can you pull those numbers for us?
     
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    You used the word "rogue" twice. Neither time was it accurate nor justified. These are federal law enforcement officers performing their assigned duties. They're not disobeying orders nor acting without authorization. They're not "rogue"
     
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    If a rioter throws a rock through a window of a federal building from a city-owned park across the street, what's your understanding of what should happen?

    A: federal LEOs tasked with protecting federal property should leave the federal property they are protecting, cross the street to the city-owned park and arrest the perpetrator

    B: leave it up to local city cops since the projectile was launched from city property
     
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    "Just following orders"?? Yeah, that doesn't always have the best connotations in history....

    The mission is rogue and the men are clearly exceeding any orders to "protect federal property"..

    This one's going to leave a mark...
     
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    So you are claiming it is so understood that the Democratic Party is pro-criminal that federal law enforcement arresting criminals is pro Trump?

    Are you also claiming that state police should not go enforce laws in counties and cities - and that the Sheriff's Departments and state law enforcement should not enforce laws in cities? Criminals can commit crimes anywhere, but there are 25,000 do-not-pass lines for law enforcement for criminals to just step across and be safe?

    Democratic officials are ranting that federal law enforcement can't touch their criminals they protect? That seems to be the claim of Democratic officials.
     
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    best post ever...glad you accept the leftist terrorist aren’t a good plan and trump fighting against them hurt your clause
     
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    The DHS has numerous basis to act:

    1. They claim lasers are being pointed at aircraft such as police, news and Medivac helicopters. This gives the DHS federal authority under FAA criminal laws and the Patriot Act.

    2. The Patriot Act and statutes relevant to the Department Of Homeland Security allow using federal authority against domestic terrorism.

    3. The Enforcement Acts of 1870 and 1871 gives the president massive power to use federal authority - even federal troops and suspend habeas corpus to ensure equal protection under the law. Blacks are NOT being given the same protection under the law as are rich white people in many Democratic Party controlled cities with a white majority.
    It's not rich white kids and children being shot in the head, is it?
    https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/EnforcementActs.htm

    "The mayor didn't ask" is absolutely irrelevant. Nothing in law gives federal authority because a mayor wants it. Either the federal government has authority or not. It is irrelevant what mayors or governors want. They have no say over federal jurisdiction whatsoever one way or the other.
     
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    You are conflating rioters with demonstrators... I will explain it to you. Rioters are bad!!! Rioters of any type are bad be they anus-heads who burn cars after their team wins or loses a Super Bowl or Black supremacists celebrating MLK day.
     
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    Those are the 2020 murder rates
    https://www.roadsnacks.net/murder-capitals-of-america/
    THE 10 MURDER Capitals Of America For 2020

    These are the cities in America where people were killed most often, according to the latest FBI numbers.



    I believe you’re mistaken the date of the LA article with the murder capitals of America.
     
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    Anyone who advises Trump to send troops to save DP ruled urban hell holes should be sent packing along with Lynn Cheney. They are not trying to help him.
     
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    Putting a stop to violence and destruction is not going against Ben Franklin's quote concerning safety and essential liberty. Those whose purpose is to put a stop to the violence and destruction are actually preserving essential liberties, not taking them away.
     
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    Trump doesn't care about the welfare of cities, or states. He proved that when he said 'let California Burn'.

    See? "let CA burn' and 'troopers in blue cities' = applause from his base.

    It's all about Trump, and no one else.
     
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    See #139

     
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    A would be a direct assault on a federal property or federal personnel. Arrest by a federal LEO is fine and proper.
    What is not fine and not proper is for federal LEOS to dragnet a protesters without cause because the federal LEO thinks that they may be, I emphasize maybe be, suspicious. The later is Russian/ SOVIET Putin work not the way American law enforcement are supposed to operate. It is against our AMERICAN CONSTITUTION! Sure that type of behavior is accepted in Russia but let me remind you in case POTUS T and FOX Network has confused you we are in the United States of America not the now defunct but reserving USSR!
     
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    No, but I can give you the most crime riddled cities in America and the political party that leads those cities.
    America’s Top 20 Cities for Crime, and What Party Runs Them
    Fred Lucas / @FredLucasWH / June 24, 2020

    1. Detroit
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 20.0

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 50

    Mayor: Michael Edward Duggan, Democrat

    2. Memphis, Tennessee
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 19.5

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 51

    Mayor: Jim Strickland, Democrat

    3. Birmingham, Alabama
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 19.3

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 52

    Mayor: Randall Woodfin, Democrat

    4. Baltimore
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.5

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 54

    Mayor: Jack Young, Democrat

    5. Flint, Michigan
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.3

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

    Mayor: Sheldon Neely, Democrat

    6. St. Louis
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.2

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

    Mayor: Lyda Krewson, Democrat

    7. Danville, Illinois
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 18.0

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 55

    Mayor: Ricky Williams Jr. (nonpartisan election)

    8. Saginaw, Michigan
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.7

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 60

    Mayor: Floyd Kloc (nonpartisan election)

    9. Wilmington, Delaware
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.3

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 61

    Mayor: Mike Purzycki, Democrat

    10. Camden, New Jersey
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.2

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 62

    Mayor: Francisco Moran, Democrat

    11. Pine Bluff, Arkansas
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 16.0

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 62

    Mayor: Shirley Washington, Democrat

    12. Kansas City, Missouri
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 15.9

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 63

    Mayor: Quinton Lucas, Democrat

    13. San Bernardino, California
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 15.3

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 65

    Mayor: John Valdivia, Democrat

    14. Alexandria, Louisiana
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.6

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 68

    Mayor: Jeffrey Hall, Democrat

    15. Little Rock, Arkansas
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.6

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 68

    Mayor: Frank Scott Jr., Democrat

    16. Cleveland
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.5

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 69

    Mayor: Frank Jackson, Democrat

    17. Milwaukee
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.3

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 70

    Mayor: Tom Barrett, Democrat

    18. Stockton, California
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.2

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 70

    Mayor: Michael Tubbs, Democrat

    19. Monroe, Louisiana
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.1

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 71

    Mayor: James Earl Mayo, Democrat

    20. Chester, Pennsylvania
    Violent crime rate (per 1,000 residents): 14.0

    Odds of being a victim: 1 in 71

    Mayor: Thaddeus Kirkland, Democrat
     
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    No I never said that the Democratic Party is "pro criminal". I do accept the form of feral stupidity that says that " it is so understood that the Democratic Party is pro-criminal". How stupid and wrong can such a statement be! How can anyone who even attempts to think honestly, logically, and intelligently believe such stupid nonsense?
     
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    It has the exact same police response, no response, as those cities did to their rioting 5 years ago.
     
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    let cali burn
     
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    You obviously have responded to the wrong poster since you have confused me with some other guy who you believe has the "clause" of terrorism on his agendas. i assure I do not and never had have had any cause to tolerate the terrorist cause nor did I ever have my claws in their cause. Maybe you have me confused with Santa Claus who by the way supports a great cause. For you to attempt to tie me to the terrorists will be your lost cause. OK THAT'S ENOUGH LOL!!!
     
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    Of course they are... if anybody is in the streets for any reason, they are now rioters...

    The Wall of Moms are rioters

    The naked lady is a rioter

    I don't know how this will end legally, but it will not end well politically for Pol Trump...
     
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    nah it was you...you are just back peddling
     
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    If the LEOS that POTUS D sent Oregon and the ones who he has threatened to send to cities that have legally and lawfully Democrats did indeed help put a stop to violence and destruction that would be fine. Otherwise Ben Franklin's quote stands a beacon for honest people to get hold of themselves and see that our POTUS is driving this country into the cesspool of Soviet type of world.
     
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    i never back pedal. My views are based on facts and not on political, ideological, or partisan opinions. You will notice that I never say that Democrats or Republicans or Liberals or Conservatives or Libertarians are "bad". Nor do I blame ills on any American political party or ideology.
     

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