Trump says attacks on jewish sites could be "to make others look bad", PA AG says

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    Here's an interesting article about the recent threats and attacks against jewish institutions that we've been hearing so much about – not just in the US, but also here in Europe:

    http://www.philly.com/philly/news/p...ennsylvania-Shapiro-Trump-attacks-Jewish.html

    This story has also been reported on the jewish news site JTA:

    http://www.jta.org/2017/02/28/news-...threats-may-be-trying-to-make-others-look-bad

    Yes, "curious" is indeed the right word. What did president Trump mean, if he actually said that? To me it sounds like he was implying that these threats and attacks were fabricated by jews in order to get attention and sympathy from the world. It might sound strange, but it's actually very common for jews to fake "antisemitic hate crimes". Here are some examples:

    http://www.jta.org/2007/11/06/news-opinion/jewish-student-behind-some-dorm-swastikas

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3611764.stm

    http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1993-12-31/news/9312310160_1_burglary-insurance-fraud-police

    http://edition.cnn.com/US/9608/15/hate.crime/

    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4404163,00.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/01/nyregion/01false.html?pagewanted=print&_r=0

    Brooklyn Jew arrested for hate crimes

    http://www.jta.org/2008/01/22/news-opinion/brooklyn-jew-arrested-for-hate-crimes

    http://www.cjnews.com/uncategorized/january-31-2008

    http://www.jta.org/2015/06/02/news-...y-vandalized-israeli-synagogue-out-of-boredom

    http://www.haaretz.com/jewish/1.705800

    I have the following questions for my fellow PF members:

    1. Do you think that president Trump really said that these recent threats and attacks against jewish institutions could be "to make others look bad"?

    2. If he really said that, what did he mean?

    3. Do you think it's possible that these threats and attacks were faked by jews in order to get attention and sympathy from the world?

    As always, all opinions are welcome.
     
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    I don't even know what Trump meant by such a remark..
     
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    Perhaps he meant that right wing groups in Europe could accomplish two objectives at the same time by threatening Jewish institutions............ and people would obviously tend to blame the threats on Islamic refugees.


    No matter who is making the threats and why they are doing it....

    http://www.ibtimes.com/

    Anti-Semitism In France 2016: Amid Jewish Exodus To Israel, Rabbis And Scholars Fight To Preserve Traditions


    ....
     
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    Ariel Sharon tried that ten years ago.. He told the French Jews they had to move to Israel with their money because they would be persecuted in France.. All he accomplished was to (*)(*)(*)(*) them off.
     
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    Spread doubt and fear, that is Donnie's way. Lie relentlessly. Toss out the idea that Jews are attacking their own synagogs and cemeteries. A certain Bavarian corporal whom we won't name, (it agitates Trump followers) would be so proud of Herr Trumpf.
     
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    Forum poster provided several examples of this. And he just gets trolled. Unbelievable.
     
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    Now the media are reporting that some black guy named Juan Thompson is responsible for some of the recent threats against jewish centers, and that he did it in order to frame his former girlfriend, which means that president Trump was right when he said that the culprit's motive was "to make someone else look bad".

    But what about the rest of the threats, and the vandalism? Based on what I've seen so far, these other crimes are still unresolved so could it be that jews are responsible for them, and that their motive is to generate sympathy for their people at this crucial time when president Trump is being attacked by the jewish media for not doing enough for the jewish community? It's just a theory, but an interesting one.

    But it's a fact that jews fake "antisemitic hate crimes", in my OP I posted many examples from mainly jewish newspapers and news sites. Here's another one:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2000/oct/23/rorycarroll1
     
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    I find the media silence on possible suspects most telling. That to me says it's not racist white guys or the media would be on parade.
     
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    more proof that Trump is a bigoted fool
     
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    It is really interesting to me how Europeans view US relations with Jews and Israel.
    The only conclusion I can draw is that in Europe there must still be a considerable amount of Anti-Semitic sentiment.
    Americans have a huge loyalty to Israel. We would side with Israel over any other country.
    Jews in the US are among the most educated and wealthy.
    We hate Muslims. A US politician won't survive criticizing Jews and defending Muslims.
     
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    Here's an interesting article about Juan Thompson:

    Suspect Who Phoned 8 Bomb Threats To Jewish Community Centers Arrested…And He’s A Left-Wing Fake News Reporter

    For the past two weeks, the Trump administration has been slammed for its supposedly tepid response to anti-Semitic attacks on cemeteries and threats to Jewish Community Centers.
    (…)
    He was widely mocked for such an assertion – pretty much everyone on the left assumed that the JCC threats had to be coming from Trump supporters, including The Intercept, a left-wing publication that headlined just two days ago, “Trump Can’t Accept That His Allies Are Targeting Jews – So He Blames His Opponents.”

    It now turns out that the culprit, at one point, worked for…The Intercept.
    (…)
    According to the FBI, Thompson dated a Jewish woman; after their relationship ended, he sent defamatory emails and faxes to the woman’s employer.


    http://www.dailywire.com/news/14065...m_content=news&utm_campaign=twitterbenshapiro

    So The Intercept mocked president Trump for suggesting that the threats might be coming from leftists who wanted his supporters to get the blame, and then it turned out that the guy who made some of the threats actually worked for The Intercept? Good grief…

    Any comments, folks?
     
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    It's possible to criticize both Muslims and Jews. I think that sentiment in the US is coming sooner than you may know.

    Jews in the US despise the American Right and constantly work to undermine us.
     
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    Take a look at the following article, folks:
    http://www.metro.us/new-york/wind-t...-not-neo-nazis-police/zsJqce---c1ul2KXADyq6o/

    First we learn that a leftist black guy was responsible for some of these "antisemitic hate crimes", and now we learn that the wind was responsible for (some of) the rest?

    Are leftist (in many cases jewish) publications ashamed that they attacked and mocked president Trump for suggesting that the threats/attacks against jewish institutions might not be coming from his supporters?

    Oh, and here's another jew who was caught faking an "antisemitic hate crime":
    http://bifrost.newsvine.com/_news/2...ng-cop-called-him-anti-semitic-slur-nypostcom
    http://nypost.com/2011/12/10/lying-lawyer-slapped-2/
     
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    Here's the original Intercept headline:
    Here's the new one:
    And here's the reason they changed it:
    https://theintercept.com/2017/02/28...mitic-acts-might-faked-make-movement-look-bad

    This is truly unbelievable, folks. This is why president Trump calls it fake news.
     
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    He was trying to say that the attacks were not committed by anti-semites, but by Jews trying to make anti-semites look bad.
     
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    In the British newspaper The Independent we find the following article:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...rse-david-duke-kkk-ku-klux-klan-a7604801.html

    Hmm…let's see… In this thread I've linked to news articles about 11 cases where jews have been caught faking "antisemitic hate crimes", and here's another one: in an article from Times of Israel we can read about the "famous" Israeli director Yariv Horowitz who lied about being the victim of a bunch of evil "antisemites":
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/israel...ile-police-complaint-about-assault-in-france/

    But yeah, let's ignore the facts and keep attacking president Trump. That's the ticket.
     
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    Oops… Here's another jew who fabricated an "antisemitic hate crime":
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/17/zachary-tennen-hate-crime-attack_n_1891512.html

    And yet the crooked media are attacking president Trump because he (supposedly) implied that jews lie about "antisemitic" attacks.
     
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    It's not just civilian jews who fabricate "antisemitic" attacks; on the following news site we can read about a jewish "soldier" who lied about being attacked by Arabs:
    http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4503912,00.html

    Oops…how embarrassing…
     
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    In Times of Israel we can read about how the jew Joshua Ryne Goldberg pretended to be a Muslim terrorist:

    Florida Jew arrested for posing as online jihadist, encouraging terrorism

    http://www.timesofisrael.com/florida...ing-terrorism/

    But yeah, it’s outrageous of president Trump to suggest that jews might fake "antisemitic hate crimes". I mean, no jew would ever do such a thing, right?
     
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    I was right. When I first heard about these bomb threats, I just knew that the culprit was a jew. I quote from Times of Israel:
    http://www.timesofisrael.com/jewish-israeli-teen-19-arrested-over-jcc-bomb-threats/

    I was attacked for stating the obvious truth. If anyone wants to apologize, you know where to find me: I'm right here, on PF, exposing jewish criminals.
     
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    President Trump was right. So will these jewish lobby groups that attacked him apologize? They should, but of course they won't.
     
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    http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.779444

    So Israel was protecting this jewish criminal hoaxer? Gee, there's a shocker.
     
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    According to The Jerusalem Post, they have arrested his father as well:
    http://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Dual-US-Israeli-citizen-behind-most-JCC-bomb-threat-calls-484990

    So it's not just one jewish hoaxer, it's a family of jewish hoaxers. Oy gevalt.
     

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