Trump Says The Media Is The Enemy, And He's Right

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  1. mbk734

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    The fake news deserves everything they are getting. biased media is unAmerican. CNN SUCKS.
     
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    “They asked my daughter Ivanka whether or not the media is the enemy of the people,” Trump tweeted on Thursday afternoon. “She correctly said no. It is the FAKE NEWS, which is a large percentage of the media, that is the enemy of the people!” The president did not clarify which outlets he considered “fake news.”

    https://www.politico.com/story/2018/08/02/trump-media-enemy-people-ivanka-white-house-760581

    Here's the problem with your, and Don's argument. Don calls any story that is critical of him and his admin, or exposes his lies, "fake." While at the same time spouting lies every day (along with Sister Sarah)..........which to complete the circle...........is why he calls the media fake in the first place.
     
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    The media is not an enemy of the people but they are so arrogant they think they know how to run our government. Most are liberal and thus they lean their news to the left to try to influence their readers. Too bad they are too stupid to realize they would better serve the country and it's citizens if they were more objective.
     
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    It's said that the yellow journalism of William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer led the US into the Spanish American war.

    Propaganda, distortions, and manipulations should be left to the likes of the National Enquirer.
     
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    Of course, Trump is avoiding the media. On July 25th, Trump held a news conference with the president of the EU. He took two softball questions from reporters that were so unimportant, the questions and his answers were deemed not newsworthy, and they did not appear on the evening news.

    This is indicative of the premise that what Trump says is no longer important ... if it ever was.

    Those are the only questions from reporters Trump has answered in over two weeks. He truly has become the most secretive President in American history.

    Honestly, few are disappointed. The less from him the better. They won't admit it, but the White House and his closest advisors feel the same way.
     
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    Obviously many liberals feel exactly the same way about Fox News and they're right to some degree. But you have to watch several sources and filter through the BS to get to the objective truth. Obama gave conservative reporters the cold shoulder as well so this is nothing new.
     
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    CNN, FOX, and MSNBC are good news sources with a lot of bad reportage. Each network has broad international coverage, good video links, reliable news sources, and some real crap reporting. So, now what?

    First recognize each of these networks aims their content at specific target audiences. FOX=GOP, MSNBC=Dems, CNN=mostly Dems and international. The trick is to look at the story, not the network. Look at the sources (most will be anonymous - that's the way it is), then do fact checking using multiple sources. Most important is to separate news from editorial.
     
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    What is the last fake news you heard from CNN or are you just flapping your lips because trump is pulling your strings?
     
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    The propaganda state has arrived and I would say it is more than half. Russia is the least of our worries. RT is where you go if you want to find opinions from Americans the Establishment does not like.

    It looks like we can add yet another name to the list of journalists that MSNBC has pushed out or fired for refusing to toe the establishment line: Ed Schultz.

    "MSNBC, where journalism goes to die" April 2018
    https://alethonews.com/2018/04/23/msnbc-where-journalism-goes-to-die/

    Don't think that because I used this example or MSNBC that this is a left/right partisan issue.

    The Establishment is both Red and Blue (elite bureaucrats and politicians with the international financiers/Oligarchy at the top pulling the strings)

    The Red and Blue Media will go at each other over certain "Hot Button" issues which keep the raging masses occupied and divided.

    What the Red and Blue Media will not do is challenge, conflict with, or refute the Establishment narrative (false or otherwise).

    "Iran the #1 state sponsor of Terror and Cuba near the top of the list"

    Obama's - "Moderate rebel lie" - this was an interesting as the NY-Times had some good reporting early on in the Syrian conflict prior to 2014(reporting that there was no moderates - all were strict sharia extremists who wanted to turn Syria into a Sharia theocracy like Saudi Arabia) In 2014 when our dog (ISIS) went off its leash and went into Iraq - this necessitated the "Moderate Rebel Lie" The NY-Times promptly forgot its previous reporting and went along with the lie.

    Vast amounts of information has come out and not less than 10 (bipartisan) in congress stating directly that the administration was arming and supporting Al Qaeda/ISIS and other extremist Islamist Jihadist group in Syria. One would think this would be front page news in the newspapers and the leading story on the networks. "Obama arming and supporting the 911 Terrorists" .. Silence.

    We have been in a war in Yemen for nearly 3 years now .. a war in which we fight on the same side as Al Qaeda and the cradle of Islamist extremist ideology that drives - Taliban, ISIS, Al Qaeda, Islamic Front, Boko Haram, Al Shabaab and so on - Saudi Arabia. The humanitarian crisis is at epic proportions and most other nations in the world are complaining about the war crimes and the crimes against humanity being committed by Saudi Arabia. Crickets once again... most would not even know we were in a war with Yemen.

    The Establishment owns and controls the MSM. They own the defense contractors, health oligopolies and banks who profit from war - along with most everything else that is not nailed down - Energy, Transnational food companies and so on.

    I have only hit on a few examples - there are hundreds.

    In 2013 it became legal for our intelligence agencies to create and disseminate propaganda on US citizens. One would think that might hit the headlines ;) - guess Stormy is far too important. Where was the panel discussion on that one ?

    Where are the panels talking about Clapper - the guy who lied to congress (Felony 1) about NSA en mass spying on US citizens (Felony 2). Not only did this guy not get punished but he kept his Job .. and in fact hand picked the intelligence analysts for the Russia hacking episode.
    Where is the discussion about those who commit criminal acts within Gov't going unpunished while the FBI (Mueller) goes after those who try to expose Gov't criminality - through legitimate channels - get persecuted (I am not talking about Snowden and Manning). https://www.rt.com/usa/313662-whistleblowers-sue-doj-fbi-nsa/
     
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    Without the media, you wouldn’t have a clue what’s going on in the world. Even your local newspaper is media. I rather not see the whole nation become schizophrenic because one wannabe tyrant can’t handle criticism of himself.
     
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    Trump is part of that "establishment" since he is a billionaire.
     
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    They became past ridiculous when they faked that protest. Do you know what im talking about or do you want me to show you how google works?
    bu bu snopes said....lol
     
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    Yeah, it would be pretty cook if you showed your source.
     
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    I read your post so I went to CNN and guess what....

    Their lead story is FAKE NEWS
    China responds to Trump's tariffs threat

    Who cares if they raise tariffs on products they dont allow into their market place.
     
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    are you saying it's true but because you don't care it's fake or are you saying it's a lie?
     
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    Trump's Stalinist demonization of "the media" that refuses to parrot his lies establishes him as the enemy of the people in his attack upon the First Amendment.

    Patriotic Americans will not surrender to his tyranny.
     
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    Patriotic Americans agree with the president. We see what's going on. Liberal newspapers are shrinking. Their readers are walking away and the paper is getting thinner.
     
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    False.
     

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