Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan

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Legal immigrants and robots

 

It's cute that you think all these migrants are working, but what you've unsurprisingly failed to realize is that when you flood the market with new low-wage workers, you drive down the worker pay in that market segment. You've created competition in that market with a workforce willing to live with many people per residence on poverty wages. Not only are you supporting enriching a human smuggling operation via violent drug cartels that result in tens of thousands or even hundreds of thousands of rapes and sexual assaults on women and children, but you're also driving down wages on low-income Americans to boot. This is something people should be ashamed of; it is not something we should be supportive of.

Let's look at one city.. NYC. Mayor Adams has been outspoken about the migrant crisis. The unions run NYC like the mob used to. You cannot get a job working construction or as a janitor without being in a union. And there are no farms. You end up with schools and local services being completely overrun. They've had to slash every part of their budget, including law enforcement, education, etc in order to shelter and feed these people. It's a completely untenable problem.

 

The usual argument is that we need immigration in order to grow the economy. I'll accept that an increase in population will increase the total Gross Domestic Product.

However, I have never seen a good analysis of how the influx of immigrants increases the GDP per capita of the existing population. I doubt that it does.

Besides, GDP doesn't always translate to the material wellbeing of the population. For example, when NYC spends $5 billion this year on immigrant support, that $5 billion is added to GDP, since it is a consumption expenditure by local government. But it could arguably enhance the living standard of New Yorkers more by being spent on other projects, like fixing the subway system.

 

Duane Reade Holdings in NYC has the most number of employees. They operate pharmacies. All those immigrants spend their money at places like that which then circulates back to the city as tax revenue and wages paid to employees. It is such a complicated cycle of spending it would be hard to realistically determine who benefits the most as the money keeps circulating. Anyway, in my book GDP is a piss poor way to measure almost anything. If I were the one who had to make the call, I would take a two-pronged approach: I would do everything I could to deport illegals (and keep them out) and simultaneously overhaul the immigration system to allow many more legal immigrants here to work (with jobs arranged for in advance) and do away with the family ties status unless they are a spouse or minor child of the legal immigrant. There are other things I would do like make sure those jobs have benefits like health insurance, workers comp and the like. It could create real opportunities for the legal immigrants' businesses to flourish and let them do a lot of the screening of job candidates to make sure they are hiring Jose who can swing a hammer and not MS13-Miguel who slings Fentanyl-laced drugs all over our streets. I would also try to work with Latin American countries to try to get them on a path to being less poohole-ish so more people would want to stay at home to begin with. That, unfortunately, might would require US airstrikes on drug cartels.

 

What we really need are more workers paying into the payroll tax, because the Social Security trust fund will not have enough money for everyone’s pensions by 2035

As long as these immigrants are not committing serious crimes, and paying their taxes, I think we should allow them to stay. If they committed an illegal entry, make them pay a fine and put that revenue to use

The problem currently is the plan seems to be to deport them no matter the cost… which is not practical. If the plan to remove them is more expensive than allowing them to stay, then we shouldn’t do it

 

Now that would be very "humane" .... wouldn't it?? Treat them like trash, after they have done all the :dirty jobs that many refuse to consider.

 

Trump says there's 'no price tag' for his mass deportation plan
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The dems didn't seem to worry about a price tag for all the illegals they welcomed in.

 

Yep, and Trump and MAGA are only worried about price tags when the Dems are in charge. When Trump is in charge, deficits don't matter anymore. Watch "tax cuts pay for themselves" soon making a comeback.

 

Properly done we could get most of the ILLEGAL MIGRANTS now in the country courtesy of Brandon's open border policy to sleep deport.
1) cut off all aid now provided to them. Yes, even laundry service.
2) enforce the ban for ILLEGAL MIGRANTS working.
3) offer to buy them a plane ticket to any country that will take them.

 

Mass deportations cannot come soon enough. I have a massive migrant presence in my community. They're loud. They loiter. The community is becoming an unbearable s---hole. Since 2021, after Biden took over, there has been a large increase in migrants that have moved to my community. Every single, ****ing week I hear loud Spanish music playing. Before 2021, loud music happened once in a blue moon, and it was mostly rap and some rock. Nowadays, it's always Spanish music playing, and playing loud. For hours! It's insane how many migrants the Biden administration has allowed to flood into this country. Deport, deport, deport!

 

It was during the Yellow Flu years and the left never complained….in fact, they’re the ones who wanted it enforced the most.

 

huh?

 

You gather them up as you come across them. Sooner or later many of them will commit rapes, robberies, murders, drive drunk, etc. I think you would agree that those kinds of people have no place in this country.

 

We always had seasonal workers, that won’t end.

 

Those foreigners who want to come here to work under legitimate work visas, "green cards", etc. are welcome. But the freeloading bastards who come to milk our system can just stay out as far as I'm concerned! We should welcome workers, let them earn their pay, pay their taxes, and then leave and go home, on TIME. And if they obey our laws, they can be welcome to come back and work as often as they like. They can also be welcome to apply for citizenship too. We need good people here, not beggars and bums.

 

The Democrats can't wait to start up their impeachment machine again. It is probably about the only thing they have that still works anymore.

 

I think he's referring to the Chinese Virus where in certain parts of this country (mostly super blue areas, like New York and Chicago) you had to show your vaccine card to do a lot of basic things in life, such as going to a restaurant or to the gym. Therefore, the precedent has been established, thanks to the left. Were you in favor of Biden's vaccine mandate that required "workers at businesses with 100 or more employees get vaccinated or submit a negative Covid test weekly to enter the workplace," and that "also required unvaccinated workers to wear masks indoors at work"?

 

oh, had never heard it called the yellow virus

a business can require id to do business there, you have a choice to show ID or not buy cigarettes or alcohol, cops can not

but I agree, I am pro-choice on what you do with your body too

 

This was not the decision of businesses. This was the government mandating the businesses require people to show proof of vaccination. That's fundamentally different than a business making a decision by itself.

So, let's try this again. Were you in favor of the mandates in super blue areas, such as Chicago and New York, that mandated people show proof of vaccination at the state and local level? Were you in favor of Biden attempting a mandate by OSHA at the federal level?

 

yep, but it's not the same as stop and id, as American do not have to carry ID on them at all times

nope, I said what Biden did was unconstitutional and would be overruled, it was just a bluff, never could be enforced - as I am pro-choice, my body, my choice

 

Really? That's interesting, because there was a thread just about this by our friend @Steve N , called Biden to unveil new "plan" to stop Delta variant on Thursday.

In that thread, @HockeyDad on September 9, 2021, wrote this:

This was you in reply to him:

On September 9, 2021, @Vote4Future wrote:

You replied:

On September 9, 2021, @GrayMan wrote:

You wrote:

In reply to no one in particular, you wrote:

On September 9, 2021, TRFjr wrote:

You replied:

I could go on, since the thread is 20 pages long, and you posts a lot there. And you didn't seem very critial of the plan, I might add. In fact, none of your posts suggests that Biden's plan was unconstitutional, as you're claiming now. I suggest other folks read it. Our friend @FreshAir here starts posting on page 4.

Here's the URL to the thread: http://www.politicalforum.com/index...lan-to-stop-delta-variant-on-thursday.591891/

So, explain to me how those post match up with this:

You seemed to be okay with citizens of this country being forced to show proof of vaccination to work, so they can put a roof over their heads and feed themselves and their children, but when it comes to illegal immigrants having to show ID, now suddenly it's a constitutional crisis for you.

Goodness, I love the power of search engines. As they say, "The Internet is forever."

 

yes, I said "many people say that, but then do it, I know a couple that refused, said would never get it, but then just recently they needed to travel out of country... lol, they got the vaccine so they could go"

other countries requiring you to get a vaccine has nothing to do with ours, it's your choice to go or not

"just like the gov can force bars and airlines to be non-smoking, they can force businesses to vax or test their employees

the precedent is already set"

yes, the precident is set for gov to force employers to test for dangers to other workers, stand by that, doesn't mean I agree with it

"you don't have a constitutional right to spread a disease during a pandemic"

if your sick, you do not have a right to spread the disease, stand by that too

 

So, then you were okay with Biden's plan to mandate proof of vaccination or proof of a negative Covid test to work, correct?

 

When did that happen, except for maybe Fed jobs?