Trump says US will ‘destroy’ Iranian gunboats that harass American ships

Anyone who has a clue, knows that the operating procedure for the US navy in case of war with Iran is to get out of the Persian Gulf and avoid finding its vessels bottom of the sea.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/2019/06/04/what-war-with-iran-could-look-like/

 

I agree that all governments lie. Those who need to 'justify' their bullying when they can't just tell their own people or the rest of the world, that they are just being bullies, often lie more. But I am glad you are irked by lies. That is a good start.

As for 'nature' being the dominant force in human evolution, it is the dominant force that has seen the development of a species that is able to think as well. That part of 'nature' has its own implications for future evolution, although a good part of nature (and the instincts nurtured in animals and humans alike) does counteract what I allude to and will require (in this evolutionary path) developments that will help some future generations better distinguish humans from their animal ancestry.

 

He's a puppet!

Why yes, Iran will prevail in The Mother Of All Sea Battles.

You know what's worse than a Puppet? A Puppet that listens to Fox News!

Yes, if Fox Listening Trump Puppet sinks even one harassing gunboat, The Mother of All Wars!

Yup. Iran starts the hostilities by harassing warships, and then because of Fox News and Puppet Trump, the Navy will respond by bullying the harassers!

You say Iran will lose, but has no choice in the matter, they are compelled to harass our warships in International Water? After the fighting starts, tell your leaders not to worry about that buzzing noise, it's nothing to be concerned about. Trump's all bluff, A puppet that listens to Fox News.

 

Trump may be a Fox News Listening Puppet, but no one said he wasn't cunning!

 

"Evolution" might cease for the folks in the motorboats that harass US Warships. Trump's a puppet that listens to Fox News, that makes him difficult to predict. But, it might still be safe for your gunboats to harass US worships, because, reasons.

 

blah blah blah. All that from a person defending a terrorist state. Bottom line is don't write checks with your mouth that your ass can't cash and quit harassing someone that is bigger than you. If they don't heed that warning then they brought it on themselves. It will be fun to watch if they don't.

 

You understand that because evolution has advanced you way past us, we are but apes with a Paper Navy commanded by a Puppet that listens to Fox News and issues empty threats. You guys are lions with circles! How can we compete with that?

 

Why yes, we have none of those advanced Iranian capabilities. But that is to be expected as you are much more evolved than us. So, you're in great shape!

 

Power corrupts. Always. What you call bullying, our government calls America first. If a government has the power to impose its will, it will impose its will. lf Iran had the power, American women would be wearing hijabs.

Gobble de gook.

 

@Iranian Monitor

Iran has plenty of choice in the matter. They can cease harassing shipping, and placing limpet mines on vessels, and hijacking ships, shooting missiles / rockets at our facilities, and sponsoring terrorists. Stop doing those things, and the odds of war with the USA decline precipitously.

 

I've seen people online calling it "SINKEX 2020"

 

I'm pretty sure that the more dead Iranian military would constitute "making the world a better place".

Russians
Chinese
Pakistanis
Iranians
North Koreans.

All must be ground down and destroyed.

 

You don't know much about the military do you? Getting U.S. vessels out of the Persian Gulf (a rather narrow and confining space for a naval battle) is all about allowing U.S. forces to fire freely on enemy vessels (Iranian) vessels in the Gulf.

 

blah, blah, blah indeed. Don't you get tired of the same things? How many threats have been made against Iran by the US during all these years? I can't even begin to count. The threats became more vocal and pronounced when Bush (jr) became president, saying "everything is on the table" and even refusing to rule out using nukes against Iran. They continued and, under Trump, they have revolved around threatening to "obliterate Iran" and more, including threatening to hit Iran's cultural sites. Each time, the US has blinked, it was one excuse or another. It was because Bush had gone soft. It was because Obama was a gutless traitor, It was because these speedboats Trump had threatened to blow up were supposedly no longer daring to harass US warships. It was because, despite saying explicitly that any Iranian attack against any interests of US allies would bring about 'massive retaliation', he really meant an attack against US forces and interests. No need to respond to attacks on tankers the US claimed were carried out by Iran. No need to help out the Brits when their tanker was seized, no need to help out the Saudis when the Aramco oil facility was in flames. Later, when America's most expensive drone was shot down (the US alleging, over international waters), it was because Trump didn't want to hurt Iranians in response to an attack against a pilot-less drone. Still, later, after the attack against the Al Asad air base, despite explicit threats of what the US would do if Iran attacked any US "assets", it was because "no one was hurt". Since then, several US servicemen have been killed by rocket attacks in Iraq, with the US blaming Iran. You had this incident several days ago, which wasn't the first and won't be the last even if you don't hear much about them when publicizing the issue isn't what the US is interested in doing. What makes you think you will get to now watch, what you imagine will be 'so fun' for you to watch?

Some people are just slow. Slow to learn a clear message: you aren't going to get your way by threats and bullying against Iran. If Iran was going to be cowed, and was content to act as another vassal state like the ones around it and in much of the world, it wouldn't be sending you these messages constantly. And if these threats are to mean something, you need to act on them and not just repeat the same old constantly.

 

I take my chances with how Iran conducts its foreign policy instead of following the course taken up by, inter alia, Saddam and his capitulation following Desert Storm (which didn't save him later from the US invasion in 2003), Libya's Qaddafi (despite having capitulated to US demands for several years when he was taken out), not to mention the countless other states around the globe (including Grenada! and Panama and more) who have been attacked and invaded by the US during all this time the US has been issuing threats against Iran.

By contrast, I am sure not only Iran, but Iran's allies such as Hezbollah in Lebanon, Assad in Syria, and the Houthis in Yemen, feel they are in better position than they would have been capitulating and rolling over for the US to take them out as well.

 

Why are you so against the U.S. killing its enemies?

Despite your username aren't you an American?

 

Just when I think I can't possibly love Trump any more than I already do, he does things like this.

God Bless Trump.

 

Yes, most of our troops don't have what you would call offensive weapons, they just lob handfuls of prayer tracks in the air in the hopes that they will stop bullets and missiles. You are quite wise to harass our warships with your motor boats. Really, it shows just how far evolution has advanced you compared to us. Darwin is very pleased with you!

Darwin, thumbs up to the gunboats!​

 

This guy didn't end up any better than the other people you listed:



He was Iran's national hero, and we blew his dick off.

The lesson here (hard as it is for some to learn, apparently) is "Don't poke the bear!!!" If you poke the bear enough that it finally decides to put an end to the nuisance you've become, and then you try to say "No touchy! I put my stick down now!" when it roars and charges you, you may find that it's too late for that, and the bear no longer cares.

 

Exactly!!!!! I am tired of the same ole thing. It's about time we had a president that had some balls and a backbone. Yay Trump!!!!!!! I dare Iran to test our resolve. Trump is not Obama or Bush or Clinton. Together those three couldn't scare up a backbone to save themselves.

 

A lot of people, on each side, haven't fared well. Do you want me to post pictures to make the point?

I don't get how a 'superpower' takes pride in assassinating an Iranian general on foreign soil in Iraq, not during any fighting, but being driven to meet Iraqi officials. To me, that was cowardly, but I guess it really showed how powerful the US is! Which is why the US had its troops bunkered down and taking waves of missiles fired at them at the Al Asad air base without even trying to take out any of these missiles as they were being launched!

 

No one has been exposed for empty threats against Iran as much as Trump! I can go down the list again if you like, but I had alluded to them already.

 

Sometimes facts and humor go hand in hand:

 

Tell that to Soleimani

 

It's not exactly "pride" per se. I thought it might be a useful instructional episode. And of course there was fighting going on. An American contractor was killed at K-1 Air Base the week before, and the US Embassy had come under attack.

Or did you think that just because the Iranians weren't launching rockets at the exact moment that Soleimani was being eliminated that it was "not during any fighting". If so, please see my previous comments regarding "No touchy! I put my stick down now!"