Trump signs order to keep out Radical Islamic Terrorists

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  1. popopolitics

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    While Trump was campaigning, he said "We need a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States while we figure out what the hell is going on!" Although he has somewhat softened his tone, this is a first step toward the campaign promise to protect the US from Radical Islamic Terrorism. Obama let 10,000 Syrian refugees into the US. Clinton, if elected, was going to let 65,00 Syrian refugees into the US. I have to say this is probably the #1 reason I supported Trump in the election. After seeing terrorist attacks in Paris, Belgium and Germany, it became obvious that the porous borders in Europe allowed Islamic terrorists to easily move about. Chuck Schumer said "There are tears running down the cheeks of the Statue of Liberty tonight". The Statue of Liberty was erected in 1886. This is 2017. This is a new world. A world where you don't know who the enemy is? America was a place that prided itself on accepting people who were escaping persecution from their countries and wanted to become Americans and embrace our way of life. There are still foreigners who want the same thing now, but we do not know their true intentions. Why take the risk? If someone offered you a bowl of candy and said take one but there are 3 candies in the bowl that are poisonous, would you take one?
     
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    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There is no right for foreigners to come here. Even Mexico, the gold standard for liberals, won't let foreigners in if they're dangerous, a drag on the economy, protest, disagree with anything Mexican, etc.

    Instead of libs importing Muslims here, why don't they just move to a Muslim country? Problem solved.
     
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    Lots of reasons why we shouldn't be accepting people from these regions.

    They're highly radicalized.
    They're prone to terrorist attacks against people who don't share their radicalism.
    They don't assimilate.
    Their culture is incompatible in serious areas of child sex, treatment of women/gays/animals.
    They're often dirty poor, untrained, and uneducated.
    We have far too many people in the US that we cant take care of as it is.
    We already have a huge immigration problem with our borders.
     
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    Someone is fighting back and the dhimmis wont like it..of course, the islamists wont like it
    either...stiff...go somewhere else...the UK and that dhimmi Theresa May will welcome you with open arms...
    (and probably wont even search or vet you)....plus free housing and welfare benefits..you know, the usual
    welcoming gifts offered by suckers.....
     
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    Another inane stunt by Trump to confound and confuse the proletariat.

    Trump is taking credit for a screening process that is already in place.

    An executive order is not required to instruct Homeland Security to do the job it is already doing.
     
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    If executive orders allow Trump to express his disgust for anything ''un-American'', (you know, abortion, climate-change, refugees and human rights) then we must continue to characterize Trump as such; a disgusting example of a human being, not worthy of the designation President, family-man or even man.

    He started talking again about 'chopping of heads' (by ISIS) and that he is unhappy America is not able to respond in kind...
    Here's an example of Trump talking like he lost his head already.

    https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+torture+works&t=ffab&atb=v43-7__&ia=videos&iax=1&iai=bAuoIXVNSEw

    Someone should take Trump's head and let it meet the local toilet up close, that 'll teach him about water-boarding.
    No, not pleasant at all, I'm sure.
     
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    Actually it's a big step towards alienating the very people that would be our best allies in fighting Radical Islamic Terrorism. Pew estimates your chances as an American of being killed in a terrorist attack by a refugee at over 1 in 3 billion. That's any terrorist regardless of affiliation. Refugees are incredibly well vetted and it takes around two years to clear the vetting and very few of those applying get accepted. There is no way a terrorist is going to try and go through that process.
    Those that make it tend to be enormously grateful, like the soldier honored by the Army the day Trump announced his intentions. They would be our best allies in identifying terrorists and their recruiters. But no, let's make every Muslim American, no mater how patriotic, and every Muslim globally, no matter how pro-US, feel that their religion is attacked. That's 3 million Americans and a billion globally of potential allies shunned.

    Stupid.
     
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    you would think that but no. lol. What a wierd world we live in.
     
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    Compassion and common sense have died.

    The ban on entry affects seven countries. I would be willing to bet that some (many?) very large US companies have nationals from one or more of those countries working in reasonable high level positions that require foreign travel. They won't be able to do their jobs while this 90-day suspension on entry is in effect. Some of them may already be abroad and unable to return to their jobs in the US.

    As for refugees - there are millions of innocent, non-radical, non-terrorist people who have been forced to flee their homes because of war. Bus drivers. Shop clerks. All they wanted from life was a chance to raise their families in peace. Now they have lost everything. By all means vet refugees (and other immigrants), but to close the doors to genuine refugees who simply cannot return home safely demonstrates a lack of compassion that is dispiriting, but not surprising from Trump.
     
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    Enjoy your new immigrants and their "tolerance" of your culture.

    How do you intend to get hold of my president? That's right. You can't. You run your country how you see fit and we'll do the same. Have a nice day.
     
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    Look everyone he's doing his Nero impression! Fiddling while his country burns down by fires he lit.
    What an appropriate analogy you've made.
     
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    Yeah - you kind of make my point for me. Compassion has died.
     
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    Yep.. Trump has a real talent for self-aggrandizement .. I just wish he would stop saying "MYSELF"... and "We" like he was the king.
     
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    You bellyaching about his grammatical presentations now? :roll:
     
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    That's Trump for you; appealing to his base, the lowest common denominator. Muslims=evil. That's as deep as they get.
     
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    Republicans don't do compassion. It's, 'I got mine, screw you'. I'm just surprised we're not hearing crap about the 'personal responsibility' of refugees who should obviously have known better than becoming one, and making 'poor decisions' for losing their families in a war. I mean, just how irresponsible can one get?
     
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    Yes, everyone's an ignoramus except you! Has he said 'Muslims are evil'? Got a link for it?
     
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    you are confusing obamas screening with trumps. Under Obama, the guy who couldnt even keep the white house front door locked, we had terrorists like tsarnaevs and many more who we warned multiple times about but bama did nothing. Tsarnaevs then went on to blow up the marathon killing a little boy in such a manner that his guts were outside of his body and the rest of his body riddled with shrapnel to the point it was obvious to bystanders he could not be saved. Thats some screeening you leftists did, by screening you mean welcomed terrorists with open arms, gave them our money and looked the other way even after receiving warnings right? I would call that treason
     
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    If this is why you voted for the Fascist, then you are nuts. Most of the people who've committed terrorist acts in Europe weren't refugees, they were Muslims who were born in those countries and were radicalized by being part of a discriminated against minority. Similiarly, the clowns who've gone on shooting rampages in this country - Hasan, Mateen and Forook, were all born here.

    If we have a problem with "Terrorists", it's because our policies of going into their countries and doing bad things is biting us back. Nothing more. Nothing less. Maybe if we are so afraid of "Terrorists", we should change our policies so that young men in this country don't become radicalized.

    We could also try something as breathtakingly rational as actually scrutinizing who can buy a gun... but never mind.
     
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    Didnt you pay attention to what trump said? Hes going to shelter refugees over there where they will be happier and we will be safer. Let us know if you dont want our compassion money you say we dont have. Your country could always take the refugees we arent and your country could pay for them and shelter them and then clean up the streets when one of them runs over a hundred people with a box truck.
    Irresponsible is letting terrorists kill innocent people when it can easily be avoided. So let us know if you guys dont want our relief funds for housing them over there. Mmkay? Mmkay.
     
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    Don't confuse them with facts. It always makes them mad.
     
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    This thread is a sad reflection of the parochial xenophobia of the American far right wing, and it's total lack of compassion.

    When Mr Trump bellows about "figuring out what's going on", the truth is, he is the one who has no idea what's going on, as the antics of last week clearly demonstrated.

    In reality, the process for screening refugees from places like Syria were put in place by the Bush adminstration and were not changed by Obama. It typically takes two years for a refugee from Syria to clear this process. To date, NO Syrian refugee has been involved in any terrorist attack in the US. Moreover, there hasn't been a single terrorist attack committed by a refugee or a foreigner in the US since 9/11.

    Ironically, every single one of the terrorists who particpated in 9/11 came from countries that are NOT on Mr Trump's list (Saudi Arabia and Egypt chief among them.
     
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    You ever been to a refugee camp? I have. If you say no, as expected, then how about you Google life in a refugee camp and if the reading is too depressing then just Google the pictures and get back to us about how happy and safe people are living like that for 2 years or more.

    Absolutely and since the chances of you personalty getting mauled to death by an animal at a zoo are 100s of times greater than getting killed by a terrorist attack committed by a refugee here why are you so gung ho to waste money on it and alienate the very people who would be best able to help expose real terrorists?
    Think of it this way, a klan member isn't very likely to tip off a black guy to next week's cross burning but he might to a white guy wearing a Make America Great hat made in Viet Nam.
     
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    Ive never seen a monkey fly a jetliner into a skyscraper.
    Which refugee camp were you in and when?
     

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