Trump Wanted I.R.S. Investigations of Foes, Gen. Kelly says

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  1. garyd

    garyd Well-Known Member

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    They can't and that number is an assumption not a fact. And by the way even if they could that's 10 percent of bidensast budget and the ultimate cost is likely to be far more than just the six figure salaries of these new IRS agents.
     
  2. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Well, dems aren't spring chickens, but compared to Trump, they are choir.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Please reread the reply until epiphany as achieved. If no epiphany, repeat as required.

    or follow the conversation further down the line which will add clarity to my answers.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    You're always dumbfounded. The world just eludes you at every level. Tsk tsk.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The real number is $600B per year, and that's a big coin no matter how you spin it. Its 71 times more than the agents cost even if they make six figures.
     
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    Where does that number come from? What are the underlying assumptions?
     
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    no President has asked the IRS to investigate Trump
     
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    Trump gets caught, this is the rights response?
     
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    Did he ask the IRS to do it? Did he order them to do it? Note the statement 'he wanted them to". Addresses neither of these quite relevant question.
     
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    No need. It seems obvious that you're practicing the art of obfuscation.
     
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    Its based on study made by the Treasury Department. Of course not all new employees are hired to just collect taxes, but also answer phones because currently one Customer Service rep answers 16 000 calls, and if you ever called the IRS, you know they put you on hold forever. They also need to modernize their computer systems. They know how much they audit, and how much unpaid taxes they discover, and they know many audits they could perform it they had the resources (human and automated), so they can come up with the estimate based on that data.
     
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    Trump Wanted I.R.S. Investigations of Foes, Gen. Kelly says.

    I believe it. Using government to battle political foes appears to be a common corruption in both parties.
     
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    From the annals of historic abuse by the Obama administration:
    https://www.npr.org/2017/10/27/5603...or-aggressive-scrutiny-of-conservative-groups
    In a legal settlement that still awaits a federal judge's approval, the IRS "expresses its sincere apology" for mistreating a conservative organization called Linchpins of Liberty — along with 40 other conservative groups — in their applications for tax-exempt status.

    And in a second case, NorCal Tea Party Patriots and 427 other groups suing the IRS also reached a "substantial financial settlement" with the government.

    Are 429 cases enough?

    Ongoing abuse under Biden

    https://nypost.com/2022/08/16/bidens-irs-army-will-declare-war-on-political-enemies/

    So, you don't seem concerned when it actually happens. The abuse of power to attack the former president aside, you seem presently supportive of this behavior. I'd suggest this is the evidence that you'll ignore to continue to attempt the moral indignation you've demonstrated since forever....
     
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    Facts actually offer an entirely different answer. But then, @WhoDatPhan78 didn't bother to look for actual facts, just a blanket denial of the truth. How appropriate of our leftist posters.
     
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    What evidence is that? If there was this type of evidence, shouldn't he already be in jail?
     
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    I am aware of more facts than you. I've linked two sources multiple times that include more complete information. You guys seem to be working off 2013 information.
     
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    They were not specifically targeting conservative groups.
     
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRS_targeting_controversy#DOJ_investigation


     
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    Ironic considering that is exactly what Democrats are doing and have been doing. For instance, they are currently going after Trumps taxes in order to "determine how the IRS audits Presidents". Never mind the fact that they have a current President that would probably be more forth coming in giving his taxes to them (or would he?) making it to where they didn't have to fight all those legal battles. Also never mind that determining how the IRS audits of Presidents can be found out without looking at ANY Presidents private tax filings. After all, they're looking at the "how" aren't they? At least that is what they say....
     
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    That's why I think Trump's "team" organized some form of cheating in the 2016 and 2020 elections.
    No, I don't have proof, but that doesn't seem to matter around here.
     
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    I've provided you with the information. I can't help it if you refuse to accept it.
     
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    How do you know?
     
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