Trump: Will sign something to keep families together

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  1. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/20/politics/trump-separation-action-immigration/index.html

    With the optics getting really bad and the audio of the kids in detention ( yet to be verified) and possibly presure from the flotilla of former FLOTUSi Trump is fixin to do something to attenuate the scenes of separation of children and attemptive immigrants and illegal mothers ( well they are legally mothers but they are illegals). There are those parents who are attempting to get refugee status also. ,

    Simon and Garfunkle will sing about the Mother and Child Re-union being ONLY A MOMENT AWAY....

    If this drags on you can bet the some enterprising campaign managers for the Democratic Boys and Girls will make adds with the pictures of crying babies and toddlers and the sound of crying for this fall's election ( 2018) and again for Trump's re-election bid in 2020. Republicans in Purple state and GOP Congressmen districts with mucho much latinos and latinskis were not pleased with the optics of crying toddlers and bambinos.

    That is my take on the potential Trump fixin to do something, what is yours?
     
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    That's ALL this theater was about anyway. The Democrats don't care about these people, they're just a platform for a party without one facing an election soon.


    Anyway, I actually think Trump shouldn't have done this. He had the leverage here to hammer out a deal, or show the Democrats to be frauds if it didn't happen. He tossed that away by catering to this manufactured narrative IMO.
     
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    Actually, most of us see it for what it is, POLITICS.

    It’s a shame our politicians refuse to protect our borders to prevent this from happening in the first place, that they won’t work with the President on DACA, and that the media and activist are in hyperactive mode in trying to a “shame” people into releasing these people into our society. I’m really sick of it and outwardly call out anyone around me that supports this BS being fed to us via the Politicians and media.

    When there is no compromise to fix a problem then all that’s left is to execute the laws as written.
     
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    And the Republicans care even less about them. The disdain for this kind of treatment at the hands of the US government crosses all party lines. No amount of spin about how Obama did the same thing changes the fact that this is Trump's watch, and he owns this.
     
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    Dammit!

    I've been waiting for a good time to use this meme today and now I cant because its no longer valid.

    Thanks Trump.

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    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you really want to stop it, the Open borders BS needs to stop. Trump doesn't own this any more than past Presidents..but he's trying to address it.
     
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    Republicans brought a bill to Chuck Schumer looking for bi-partisan support in order to address this child thing.

    Do you know what Chuck's response was?

    He said "no I wont do my job, I want to keep the focus on Trump".

    Kinda blows the crap out of your opinion now doesn't it?
     
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  8. WillReadmore

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    Perpetrating a humanitarian atrocity as theater for a political position???

    Really???

    You think THAT is a legitimate direction for America?

    THAT is the leadership the GOP has to offer?
     
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    This "humanitarian atrocity" as you call it is all theater. It's been going on for awhile, even under Obama and no one cared.

    But since Trump is your enemy, and the MSM doesn't want to cover any news that doesn't tar him...this is what we're talking about.

    This is a nothing burger. They aren't our people, they're breaking the law. People like you ignore all this though when a sad story touches your Amygdala and ignites those emotions.
    It's no wonder we have millions of them here, and cannot seem to put a stop to it.
    People like you cannot say no because it feels bad and you're emotions get scared wondering what others will think, and as such should not lead anything.
     
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    The court of public opinion would seem to differ, no matter how much you wish that no to be true.

    Trump and the Republicans OWN this because they are the party in power and that's how this works.
     
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    Trump doesn't need an "Executive Order" to stop this monstrous policy of taking children away from their parents, he just needs to make a phone call. So, I expect this executive order might contain some other items other than just ending Trump's "kids are hostages" program.

    Looks like human decency triumphed over Trump & his minions' monstrously evil behavior and absolute dishonesty this time. I still can't believe a minority of supporters actually supported Trump's policy of taking children away from their parents....mind boggling......and scary. Thankfully they are only about 27% of the population.
     
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    And lefty will complain and whine and attack.... what happened to russia. Lock her up...
     
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    I do not care who did it or when it started.

    This humanitarian crime is something that must be stopped immediately.

    Today, there isn't even a method in place to trace the location of deported parents so that the families could be reunited some time in the future.

    Beyond that crime, individual CHILDREN are being made to face the courts with no representation - even without their parents, obviously. We're seeing 5 year olds totally alone, vs. Trump's immigration court system which quizzes them about their reason for coming to America, issues of asylum, issues of citizenship, issues of rejoining their parents (when there is no knowledge of where the parents are or what their legal status is).

    Our constitution addresses people - NOT just citizens.

    And, now America is targeting children!
     
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    Why should there be?

    They were illegal entrants who were booted. Why would we keep tabs on their locales afterwards?
    If they show up again, now they're committed a felony.

    As to our Constitution addressing people, yes it does. It starts like this:

    We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence,promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.



    As to "targeting children", this is more emotion fueled nonsense. No one was "targeted " at all. These invaders came here targeting our Nation, and got apprehended.
    That's all it is.
    If none of them illegally crossed, they'd all be together right now.
     
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    You mean the court of dumb people who have an deficit of fact and an abundance of fee-fee invoking manufactured outrage?

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    Go post some sandy hook crisis actor photos.
     
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    And this is the perfect example of why all of those false choice questions that Trumpettes posed over the last couple of days were total and absolute bullshit. Trump enacted this policy. Trump could end this policy.
     
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    True, but there is still no plan for how the children will EVER be reunited with their parents. And, as far as I know it is still Trump policy that small children must stand before the immigration court without council, without parents, and without other representation.

    There is NO possibility that this Trump policy hasn't permanently separated families.

    And, this idea that children must stand before the courts is ludicrous when one considers the issues of asylum that brought many of these families to America.
     
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    Meh, the left keeps defending people dying everyday trying to cross the border and want to make sure it continues.
     
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    Trump should've held firm in order to enforce border security and deter future illegals from crossing. He's giving in due to the bad press it's giving him. I hold the parents responsible, not Trump. So what now , how many hundreds of thousands more will cross over and we have to support them when they do. Send them back to where they came from and make them do it the legal way.

    And for those of you who pretend to care, go live in a border town and see what you think. Don't forget to tie down and lock up anything you don't want stolen. Try to find a job there where the wages haven't been deeply lowered due to illegals bringing it down. Keep paying high taxes and health insurance to make sure they can have all those things for free. Sounds wonderful, doesn't it?!
     
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    Trump has stated that taking the children would be used as political pressure for policy concessions.

    And, you are oblivious to how asylum works, so EVERYTHING you've said about crossing the border is wrong.

    AND, you still didn't address the fact that children must face the courts without representation. Trump expects 5 year olds to win against his courts in making the case for asylum from the conditions the parents have faced. Why does that make sense to you?

    And, you're still ignoring that there is no plan for reunification, no release of the location of the holding cells and prison encampments, and no monitoring by humanitarian organizations such as we require of other countries.
     
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    Best Trump quote:

    "Anyone with a heart would care".

    After days of Trump Supporters supporting this cruel policy, now they have to support the reversal.

    :roflol:

    And so it goes.
     
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    Most people, left or right, are to lazy to dig for the truth. The only truth that matters right now is that Trump is president and Republicans control Congress. Spin it anyway you wish, these two truths remain.
     
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    Thank God.
     
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    I think the resources of the US government can & will reunite the kidnapped children with their parents. I expect the Mexican government and others will help where possible. If CBP and other departments took children away from their parents without recording this properly, than there could be a problem, nevertheless, I do believe they can fix this. Transparency and publicity will be key......

    What was really interesting is how the corporate world got involved in this, in particular the airlines - some of whom issued statements refusing to use their aircraft to transport kidnapped children. Flight attendants on social media have been pointing out possible transfers of these children in the past few days.

    I just watched Trump's little spiel while signing this EO in the oval office - as always, he is still a pathological liar.
     
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