Trump's legal team claim he won the vote in Nevada

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  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    You can't be for real. You don't actually believe this nonsense, right?
     
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    Trump's current legal team is one of the best in the world right now and the arguments they are making are quite sophisticated. Here's one argument that stood out to me, I'm not sure if this was directed at Nevada in particular but I think I might post it here, and I need at least seven bullet points to explain it clearly:

    1) Election machines need to be registered by the county governments before use.

    2) Since election machines are all registered, we know how many election machines each county has.

    3) A given election machine has a maximum hourly throughput under optimal conditions.

    4) Trump's legal team is claiming that the number of votes processed exceeds the maximum throughput of all registered voting machines in some counties.

    5) The spike in votes happened after a very clearly observed delay, after which Biden began to pull ahead.

    6) This is consistent with voter fraud because in order to plausibly overwhelm the legitimate votes still coming in (although there are also claims that these ballots were in some cases being destroyed or ignored), very large numbers numbers of fake votes would be needed. Otherwise, implausible events such as the 134,000 votes that were almost all for Joe Biden (and no one else down-ticket) would make the fraud obvious.

    7) Therefore, since the county physically should not have been able to process this many votes, votes which came in after the delay and which ended up changing the trend must be fraudulent.
     
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    Even FuxNoise ain't buying Rudy's bullshit...

     
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    Indeed. It's time for Trump to back up his claims with evidence.

    I'm encouraged Republicans bigwigs aren't climbing aboard the Trump BS Train. Joe Biden has given Republicans a chance to work it out. We should get back to arguing actual issues. Slogans, name-calling, phoney stories ... need to give way to debates about real concerns.
     
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    Spooky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Democrats didn't care about issues for four years so don't go saying it's now time to clean up.

    You folks are gonna get hit hard from all angles.

    This is essentially war now.
     
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  6. LangleyMan

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    Trump's legal team needs to present evidence.
    Because mail-in votes were preferred by a lot Democrats.
    No, it has nothing to do with potential fraud.
    Again, Democrats were more likely to vote by mail.
    Let's see the evidence about that voting machines--how they were used, who used them, technical details about the machines, etc.
     
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    Trump lost, fair and square. He screwed up the COVID-19 response ib the estimation of most Americans.

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    You mean the media successfully convinced people he screwed it up.
     
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    Do you mean this press conference?

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/19/poli...gal-team-press-briefing-fact-check/index.html

    The one where Guiliani, with hair dye dripping down his face, tried to imitate Joe Pesci from "My Cousin Vinny"? Yeah, they killed it alright. What they killed was any last tiny trace of credibility.

    They present no facts. None. You really need to come to grips with reality here. Biden won, Trump lost. I know how much it sucks to lose, but Trump supporters need to get past the denial stage.
     
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    I will forever treasure the image of Rudy, with hair dye dripping down both sides of his face, trying to imitate Joe Pesci.

    You really cannot make this sh!t up.

    :eyepopping:
     
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    I'm still waiting for you to prove that.

    You can't, right? Because you made it up, right? And now, as usual, you're backed into a corner of your own making, and your response is to lash out with anger at those who challenge your ... what shall we call them? Brain farts? Yes ... that fits.

    Sorry, but there are some grownups here who prefer truth backed up by facts. I'm not trying to pick on you, you're not the only one. And I do know just how it feels to expect a win and be rudely surprised by a loss. I'm sorry for your loss, but your grief does not excuse your empty, angry rhetoric.
     
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    In a matter of hours on Thursday, Mr Trump's allies were dealt legal setbacks in Georgia, Arizona and Pennsylvania.

    Republicans lost their final lawsuit in Georgia as a court rejected their effort to block the results' certification, which is due to happen on Friday. The judge who dismissed the case was appointed by Mr Trump last year.

    In Arizona, a judge rejected a lawsuit filed last week by the state Republican Party seeking a new audit of ballots in Maricopa County, home to Phoenix - the state capital and largest city.

    In Pennsylvania, the Trump campaign lost their bid in state court to throw out more than 2,000 postal ballots.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-55006188

    It's over.
     
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    15 will go to ZERO.
    It will magically disappear.
    No, I don't take responsibility
    The reaction is the new DEM HOAX.

    No one had to convince anyone that tRUMP screwed it up. He screwed up so bad, he caught it.
     
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    Funny how the day of Biden's win is the day a vaccine is announced.

    Just coincidence huh?

    If you don't think the dems
    s were holding this until after the election you have some mighty big blinders on. Covid is the only thing you had to beat Trump with.
     
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    Go ahead and wait all you want since you will never believe it I will never bother to prove it.
     
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    No, they worked that out from all the sick & dead people. Either you think 250,000 dead and many more seriously ill is fine or you have convinced yourself it didn't happen. Neither is a position I would want to be arguing.

    If you want to see people convinced that nothing is something, have a look at how the right wing media & Republicans convinced people that Obama's handling of Ebola - that cost TEN lives in the US - was a national crisis. If you want to know why poeple treat you people like a cult, it is behaviour like that. Ten dead under Obama and you are foaming at the mouth, 250,000 dead under Trump and you are whining about the media.
     
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    Trump LIED/Americans DIED.

    Thanks alot, Trump!:smh:
     
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    The fact you are skipping over the other things like H1N1 or abandoning the Arab spring to let tens of thousands be murdered tells me you have no interest in the truth.

    You are excused from the table now.
     
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    Someone is feeling flouncy today...
     
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    I made a direct, relevant comparison. The fuss the right made over TEN deaths in 2014 matched the fuss made over 250,000 in 2020. Yet you want to blame the media for Trump's failures. You are welcome to the kiddie's table, I was eating wiht the adults anyway.
     
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    Actually it's not over. Trump is about to release a bombshell.

    Per Sydney Powell they have taken a Dominion server in Germany and Dominion employees are bailing on the company. Some reportedly offering evidence for immunity.

    The federal election Commisioner has now called the election illigitimate saying fraud did occur.

    The FBI is now rumored to be likely investigating fraud.

    Pennsylvania has now announced a full audit.

    It's far from over. This is all in addition to Trumps evidence he is gathering for the Supreme Court.

    Bye bye Biden.
     
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    The media didn't even mention H1N1, you probably don't even know what it is.

    That's your media for ya, keeping a select group ignorant and believing what they tell to believe.
     
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    The media covered H1N1 extensively and there has been considerable discussion of what was done well and what was done poorly. What is really funny here is that for months now Trumpers have been insisting that this is a 'normal flu season' and that we shouldn't make a fuss about it. Yet it is many times the deaths from H1N1. If you people really cared about flu deaths you would be talking about 2017, when more people died than during the H1N1 pandemic.

    Of course, none of this is about people's lives - you proved that in 2014 & you proved it again this year. You just care about the politics and you just want to find excuses for the appalling handling of this pandemic by Trump.
     
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    How many have died from the flu this year by the way?
     
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    CDC says approximately 22,000.
     

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