Trump's medication

I gave you a link. That is precisely what chicken soup does. It reduces the symptoms and which aids in the recovery. Like they say, there is no cure for the common cold. However, reduction in symptoms allows your body to recover faster because less energy is used fighting the symptoms. I thought that was pretty basic medicine. .

 

After he was treated with it.

So explain to me how this makes Trump a hipocrite if he didn't know.

The treatment is a single infusion, btw. I presume you're not expecting him to give it back now...

 

There is not a single reference to Covid or Coronavirus in that article. What is it with you being so intent on wasting our time?

 

Now you have. You're welcome.

 

Who cares what she would think and that has nothing to do with you're debunked OP.

 

Now whos the "denier" ? LOL

 

No it wasn’t. You are knowingly disseminating misinformation.

 

Should a person opposed to murder who’s dying of kidney failure reject a donated kidney from a murder victim?

 

Who cares anyway? Trumps not anti abortion. He is OK with it in rape and incest cases.

 

Thanks. Didn’t know his position on that.

 

He owned (or owns) stock in the company. Do you think he would buy stocks in a company without knowing what they do? They say he doesn't like to read but surely somebody from this country club (he is friends with the CEO who is a member) most likely mentioned that.

 

I said:

This same philosophy is used for treating most ailments.
This is something we do frequently without thinking about it. We take cough medicine when we have a cold. The cough medicine does nothing to cure the cold. However, when you stop coughing and irritating your airways, whatever is causing the cough goes away quicker. We take aspirins for head aches. The aspirin does not cure the headache. It only allows your body "fix" whatever is causing the headache.

When I was given a steroid for an injured shoulder, it eased the pain and allowed me to regain movement. Regaining the movement without pain allowed my body to repair the damage. Without that movement, my
shoulder would have taken longer to heal. My physical therapist encouraged me to keep moving.

You are the one who is wasting time. All of this very basic to the practice of medicine. Your denials are useless. They are counter intuitive.

 

Absolutely. Trump is a 'gut' guy. He doesn't research.

I truly wish he would...

You think folks playing golf are talking about abortion? Thats the basis for your argument?

Come on, man!

 

I am saying that he most likely discussed what kind of business it was and what they do. Maybe not but I believe that to be less likely than him throwing money into investments without SOME understanding of their business model.

 

I understand that a lot of his investments are mutual funds. Most of my investments are mutual funds. I do not know what specific corporations the mutual funds are invested in.

 

Good point. I suppose that could be the case here.

 

Hi Moria.
There was a thread on this the other day I participated in. I’m not up to retyping everything so I’m going to quote myself.

Here’s the thread, if you are interested in the subject there are some very good comments from my PF friend @Quantum Nerd. In short, based on the facts and logic this is something atheist, Christians, righties and lefties can agree on being an ethical treatment.

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...e-drug-made-from-aborted-fetal-tissue.579554/

I’ll also add that over the last few weeks I’ve noticed an uptick in bastardization of science by the journalistic community. I understand many dislike Trump and his misinformation at times on science. But I don’t believe misrepresentation of science by others to combat Trump is wise. It will harm us all in the long run and it’s hypocritical as well. I hope this helps as that’s my intent.

 

I don't care about philosophy. I care about science. You have no response. You have once again wasted our time. Next time, send a QUOTE. The link only so we can verify that the quote is accurate, and the context.

 

I take nine prescriptions. Not a single one "cures" anything. They only get rid of the symptoms. For example, . I take a prescription for hypertension. It does not cure the hypertension. It just lowers my blood pressure. Blood pressure is just a symptom. However, it is a symptom which could kill me.

In short, you should care about philosophy because that is a major part of a fulfilling life.

 

[bold for emphasis]
Ok, so now you admit the following statement was B.S.

 

No such thing. Virtually every medicine used treats symptoms. Very few actually address the disease themselves. I was given steroids to ease the pain in my shoulder and allow more movement. The movement allowed earlier healing because not moving my shoulder would have hindered healing. You are just refusing to accept what is obvious to most of us.

Trump caught Covid-19. They treated him with steroids. In spite of all the dire warnings and even predictions Covid-19 could kill him because of his age and weight, he was up and around with a couple of days and now appears to be back in full health. You just don't want to accept that fact. Regardless of whether you admit that he is Covid-19 free, you cannot deny the fact that he is not confined to a bed or dead.

To look at it another way, it is usually the symptoms that kill.

 

You don't seem to know much about Medicine. There are so many misunderstandings in all your paragraphs above, that I don't even have the energy to fix them for you. Just a hint, the medications you are mentioning don't do what you think they do. But that's OK, you're not a doctor (you are spouting the typical misinformed lay-person idea of what the medications do, and it is sort of funny to see that you believe that your lay-person's explanations, which might seem to make sense to you, are accurate, when they actually have very little to do with how these medications act).

I'd advise you to avoid issuing statements about the mechanism of actions of medical medications, when you've demonstrated that you know nothing about them.

Anyway, Regeneron's polyclonal antibody cocktail does not aim at treating symptoms, so your whole premise is already off to start with. It aims at attaching to two different areas of the receptor-binding domain on the virus’s spike protein, which is necessary for the virus to invade the host human cells. Doing so, by rending the S-protein inoperative, these antibodies neutralize the SARS-CoV-2. So, no, they don't treat the symptoms. They attack the CAUSE of the symptoms. Patients have shortened symptom duration when they are given Regeneron's treatment, because the viral load decreases from the virus not being able to infect the cells in order to replicate (the virus can only replicate inside cells). Virus replication also kills the host cell, so by shutting the door to the virus, this therapy reduces the damage that the virus does to the cells. They use two antibodies to prevent a mutation that would select a resistant strain if they used only one.

 

Look. He posted a link.

 

Yep! At least he posted a link. Of course it has no relation to the question. But I guess we can celebrate that now we are aware that he does know how to post links.

 

He's ahead of me. I don't post them.