Trump's Scheme to Take Americans' Private Property

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    How is that relevant? Is Trump targeting I-30 for seizure as well?
     
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    Most experts I have heard agree that an actual 30 ft wall is needed over 700-800 miles
     
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    Who pays for the wall has nothing to do with imminent domain.
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    Imminent domain is used frequently for the good of the general population as was done with all those highways and as done in most countries.
     
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    Trump's attempting to seize the private property of Texans by eminent domain would be tied up in the courts for years as they asserted their Constitutional rights. Religious and environmental organizations would join in opposing Trump's Big Government intrusion.

    Would you appoint a reality-tv entertainer - with no training or experience in security - to design a security system for the United States? Really?
     
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    So we to start now.
     
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    Most Americans say "No, we don't" - as their elected representatives in Congress have been saying on their behalf for two years.
     
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    Most is just a bit less than half and that is decreasing. They have been mislead by this ignorant claim that a wall will not work and their general dislike of Trump.
     
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    You let foreign media supply your opinions on domestic issues?


    On the length of of the wall needed here is one non trump source:


    https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2017-trump-mexico-wall/how-long-would-the-wall-be/

     
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    Do you have any actual evidence that the easements exist? And where did you come up with the Twenty foot number.
     
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    Regardless of your falling for the reality tv entertainer's big, beautiful wall that Mexico will pay for scam, most Americans do not want it, and Congress has represented that prevailing public sentiment for two years.

    Please let me know when there is a radical shift in the verdict of most Americans.
     
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    Personally I could care less whether it is a beautiful wall that Mexico will pay for. We need better border control. And a bunch of sensors will not do it.
     
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    I acknowledge that the US media does not have a monopoly on accurate reportage but, of course, the sentiment of Americans is foremost in the determination of America's policies and taxpayer allocations:
     
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    Neither sensors, a wall, increased patrols, or any other isolated approach is a panacea. Optimal allocation of funding will demand careful, apolitical, expert analysis - not campaign hype by a reality tv performer.
     
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    None is a panacea, but sensors without a wall simply will not work. You end up having to chase them down on this side of the border. I am still waiting on someone, anyone, explain how it will be any different.

    I am not at all opposed to experts making a recommendations. So far the only experts have been the border patrol themselves and they want a wall.
     
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    We are not a direct democracy where lib polls assume the status of law
     
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    No one claims a wall is a panacea

    There is only liberal anti trumpsters who keep telling walls are not a panacea
     
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    You need to accept the reality that a very unpopular obsession by a very unpopular ex-reality tv entertainer is not about to gain the support of Americans.

    Negotiations must begin with his releasing his hostages and reopening the government he was proud to shut down and for which he assumed full responsibility after he had not gotten his way for two years.




     
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    Most Americans do not want Trump's wall. He needs to accept that reality. He has yet to come down on the $5.7 billion of US taxpayer money he is demanding for his wall that he repeatedly promised Mexico would pay for, and that a Republican-controlled Congress would not give him for the past two years.

    When he releases his hostages and re-opens government, adult negotiations will be possible.
     
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    Are we a direct democracy or not?
     
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    That has to be the most useless graph ever created by man. There are no dates. It could have all been twenty years ago or all in the last five minutes. It could even show it is much better now than earlier because the time is most recent on the left side.
     
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    Sez who?

    The same lying lib pollsters that told us hillary would win in a landslide?
     
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    Translation: You dismiss what the Border Patrol and Homeland Security has requested due to partisan politics.

    The left uses the same logic for the cost of the Mueller investigation. Hypocrisy anyone?
     
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