Turkey set to invade northern Syria, White House says, raising concerns for Kurdish fighters

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  1. Starjet

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    How does every one else’s sins excuse Trump’s? They don’t. He claims to be an Ayn Rand hero; he ought know better.
     
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    One man’s hypocrisy is not justification for another man’s sin.
     
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    You just described the current situation and they seem to have worked out a bit too well.
     
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    Not even worth a “not even”—it’s more than you deserve.
     
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    I used to live across the street from the US Embassy in Libya.. Ghaddafi was a bad actor and his time was up. The US would have been content if things had stayed as they were. Also, remember that Ghaddfai called himself the Emperor of Africa. He was nuts. Libya was prosperous BEFORE Ghaddafi because of King Idris who had lots of experience in governance. He pushed education, healthcare and the social safety nets that you credit Gaddafi with .. He also gave Libya a remarkable constitution which Gaddafi immediately threw out just before he destroyed Libya's oil business.

    There were no guarantees that Libya would survive the Arab Spring, but there was an outside hope that whoever gained control of Libya would reinstitute the Libyan constitution. Short of putting a massive occupation force in Libya indefinitely there was no way to keep Gaddafi in power.
     
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    I bet they're just trembling in their boots. McConnell said it would help Russia. Do you agree?
     
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    But it raises the question of how that man defines sin. Trump is accused of a lot of things like getting up in the morning, breathing, traitorous stuff like that and he's guilty.
     
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    But you can't help yourself.
     
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    Hypocrisy is the glue of civilization. There are no perfect human beings. However, once hypocrisy is exposed, it must be acted upon by punishment for the underlying sin, else through its acceptance, it becomes the new norm.
     
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    I think that ship sailed long ago.
     
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    Hillary was just as toxic as Trump. That does not change the fact that Trump is making security and national defense decisions based on his personal financial situation.
     
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    Even if he makes it according to chicken entrails it will be better than the last president.
    The former managed to do everything wrong. I know it is not statistically possible, but he managed.
     
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    Syria has very little oil and its terrible quality.. Hardly fit for asphalt.

    Russia Is Taking Over Syria’s Oil And Gas | OilPrice.com
    https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Russia-Is-Taking-Over-Syrias-Oil-And-Gas.html

    Feb 14, 2018 · Syria’s proven reserves of 2.5 bln barrels (341 million tons) of oil and 10.1 TCf (285 BCm) of gas might seem meager compared to those of neighboring Iraq or allied Iran.
     
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    Aren't you among those in this thread agitating to put US forces between the Kurds and our NATO allies the Turks?
     
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    Ah, you do recognize the obvious. Impressive.
     
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    Going back on one’s word. That’s a sin.
     
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    What word is he going back on?
     
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    Maybe that's the problem.
     
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    Well apparently America haven't pulled back that far... they've removed something like 50 people from the area.....perhaps just far enough for Erdogan to get his safe zone?

    The fake media falls for this over and over again, Trump hits them with a tweet, they go berserk then we all find out later oh wait what's happening is most definitely not how the media tells it.... it just paints the mainstream media as the biggest fake news factory the world have ever known... you'd think they would have cottoned on to this tactic by now.

    It's wrong news story after wrong news story... do they have any credibility or self respect left...

    The mainstream media is feeding on themselves... they are cannibalising themselves... reminds me of... yes the Democrats
     
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    No credibility and no self respect either. They are the Democrat Socialist Party propaganda machine.
     
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    the Kurds ought to know better by now.
     
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    Yes...but that doesn't answer my questions to you. But, it isn't "agitating." They were already there. Trump is taking them out.
     
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    True enough. Well as to your question, I don't think Turkey belongs in NATO because it's turned into an authoritarian Islamist country, and we have very little foreign policy agreement with them. You've already stated your preference for our allies-of-the-moment the Kurds over our treaty bound allies the Turks. Our relationship with Turkey is a relic of the Cold War. I would think at some point we would come to terms with that and act accordingly.
     
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