Turkey wants to wage a war on Syria

"I asked Mr. Putin: 'What's your business there? If you establish a base, do so but get out of our way and leave us face to face with the regime," Erdogan said, speaking to reporters in Istanbul, his comments cited by AFP.

https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/...rkey-to-deal-with-syria-one-on-one---reports/

Now I wonder if Erdogan really did has something to do with ISIS because he never waged a war on them. Now since ISIS is defeated he wants to wage a war on those people who defeated ISIS.

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Erdogan and NATO and Israel have been supporting the terrorist groups for years.

It will be interesting to see how this latest with Russia plays out.

 

There are two reasons Turkey supported ISIS. One is they needed them to go into Syria to fight the Kurds, and the other was to use them as militants to take over Syria for a renewal of their empire and to restore it to fundamentalist Sunni Islam.

When Erdogan invited the Syrian refugees into Turkey, it was to use them as an excuse to establish a no fly zone in Idlib. This way they could take it over and ethnically cleanse the Kurds and replace them with Turkomans from the Central Asian states. This suited the US, since their own intent was to establish the Israeli friendly Kurds in the Eastern part of Syria where the oil and gas was.

By doing this, Assad and the Syrian people would be deprived of the oil funds needed to rebuild the country, and it would also form a barrier separating Syria from Iran.

These things though were detrimental to Russia's security, since they depended on the Shia crescent running from Syria to Iran. Without that protection, Russia's moderate Sunni's on its southern flank became vulnerable to the jihadists from the Gulf states. The Russians had suffered dearly with the wars in Chechnya when the jihadists and their embedded CIA agents had infiltrated the Caucasus and they didn't want a repeat of that.

ISIS, Al Queda, Al Nusra, and the new 'Sham' name they're under are all one and the same. Washington now is hinting they've changed, and Russia should hold a dialogue with them. I have a better idea, why doesn't Pompeo invite them to Washington, that way they could hold a dialogue with the Atlantic Council and deep state. I'm sure they'd love that.

 

Russia has already had the base in Syria. What Erdogan asks Putin about? It's not clear.

 

If you are building a base, do it because once we conquer Syria the base will be ours.

 

If Turkey, Israel and NATO supported the terrorists - the terrorists would have won easy.

 

Why do you think Turkey never attacked ISIS?

 

You very clearly do not understand how the American, weapons-manufactoring-based military-industrial complex works. They do not want to "win" in the traditional sense of the term. Their "winning" is to continue the tax-purchasing-war-machine-chain of profit-making war-machinery as long as they can get away with it. Duh!

The "enemy" knows this and their job is to kill as many Americans as they can. It's kind of a sport.

 

What Turkey does is not related to NATO or Israel and their support is just defense which isn't working anyway as it seems.

 

Yea ? did you see the rebels in the Turkish area of Syria ? they can hardly afford clothes let alone American jewels of war, who does the buying ?

 

Yeah ..... and?

American tax-payers. Your understanding of the U.S. economic base commodity is lacking.

 

Before, the idea that Turkey supported ISIS was just some kind of a fantasy. But now, since they are attacking the Kurds, who defeated ISIS, don't you think that this fantasy of Turkey supporting ISIS is becoming a reality? Why did they not attack ISIS before? Why do they think that Kurds are more of a threat to them than ISIS? I think Turkey is getting exposed. Putin has said many times that oil tankers from ISIS territories were heading towards Turkey. Somebody was buying the oil from ISIS and reselling it for a higher price. How come it was the Russians who bombed those oil trucks, but not NATO who was monitoring the region from all kinds of sources? Why would anybody would let ISIS get rich? Unless there was a pact, where you come, you steal the oil, make money and disappear.

 

Except that Russia stepped in just in the nick of time.

 

Idlib rebels/terrorists got no serious weapons they rely on Turkey, there is nothing there to "sustain" the weapon industry of America.

 

Turkey and Israel never collided with the rebels the way Russia did with Assad and if they did Assad would have fallen unless Russia used land troops as well as air support, but that's all theory, neither Israel nor Turkey would have gone full war with Russia over Syria....

 

I guess its possible but Turkey hasn't been that active in that war, they got in once it was pretty much over and I didn't see black clothes or flags in their refugee camps, I doubt ISIS will camp units in refugee camps, for Turkey it may still be a concern against the Kurds and securing a place for refugees (about a million more since December 2019 according to UN) inside Syria,
Anyway they are mustering an attack now on "Northern Syria" so we'll see how that goes, if ISIS goes in places they emmm....."liberated" I might agree with you.

 

Does the American military have weapons ... or don't they?

 

You think America will go back in Syria now ?

 

It is possible that you are losing the thread of this dialogue. The basis is that the U.S. seeks every chance to barter in arms .... American-made arms. Its economy counts on it. The U.S. will concoct a war if there is none. How many NATO member states use U.S. weapons? Many? All? None but the U.S itself? No matter, be sure that production is on full tilt and the American tax-payers are paying to the nose.

 

Because they supported them.

 

Well its hard to discuss accusations in the dark, so the US supports the terrorists how if they don't arm them but arm NATO, I get the US sells weapons to others or to itself and so conflicts are good for the industry, but lets not blame the supplier for all the human weaknesses. how can you tell the difference between exploiting and directing the feud ?

 

Yes.

I think you know the answer to that question already.

 

They did support the terrorists - and that is why the Terrorists took over most of Syria in less than 2 years. Assad was on the ropes - which is why Russia entered the war in late 2015.

 

Misleading post....Turkey wants to "wage war" on Syria....newsflash, it already is LOL. They can move unlimited amounts of material/manpower into it. Russkis are in the way.....but good target practice nonetheless.

 

Russian taskforce’s command cannot guarantee safety of Turkish aircraft’s flights over Syria, Oleg Zhuravlev, chief of the Russian Center for Reconciliation of the Opposing Parties in Syria, said on Sunday.
According to Zhuravlev, the Syrian government was forces to declare the closure of airspace over Syria’s Idlib governorate.
"In such conditions, the command of the Russian taskforce cannot guarantee safety of flights by Turkish planes over Syria," he stressed.
A source in the Syrian defense ministry said earlier on Sunday that Turkish F-16 fighter jets had downed two Syrian warplanes over the Idlib de-escalation zone, the pilots had ejected themselves. The source also said that Syrian air defense systems had destroyed six Turkish drones.

https://tass.com/defense/1125381