U.S., Russia swap prisoners Reed and Yaroshenko amid war tensions

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  1. vis

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    Finally, Russian pilot Yaroshenko who was sentenced to 20 years in prison in the US was exchanged for American student from Texas who was in Russian prison. The case with Yaroshenko was blatant. He was arrested on suspicion of preparing to smuggle cocaine from Colombia to Liberia. He was seized by the decision of an American court not even in America, but in a third country. It has not been proved that there was any threat to American security, and the whole case was an airball. So far this was a very good exposition of American so called justice. Luckily he was exchanged now. Interestingly, American student was charged for the resistance to the police. In the US in this case he would be killed. So he is lucky that he made a mess being drunken in Russia, and not in the US.
    Russia should think about using the same methods- catch Americans all over the world who are suspected in doing the things that threat Russian security and send to prison. Then exchange them.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/biden-welcomes-russias-release-american-trevor-reed-2022-04-27/
     
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    Someone would be executed in the US for resisting arrest? Huh? The Us is obviously somewhere you have never been and only read about. And not a lot of THAT. Executed for resisting police? LOLOL... hardy har har!
     
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    Russia gave the guy 9 years in prison for drunk and disorderly.

    Funny how you left that little part out...
     
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    You do not need to live in the US to know about Encounter killing in the US. It is on the first place in the world. What about G. Floyd and others?
     
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    He got 9 years not for being drunk, but for the resistance to the police when it try to stop him doing a mess.
     
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    So 9 years in prison for tugging on a cop's jacket.

    And you think our justice system is outrageous...
     
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    You have probably been listening to the liberal media too long on this. And 99% of those cases the people are violently resisting the police. You have no right to physically assault the police.

    If you put your hands on a cop you can expect to be harmed.
     
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    Former marine being drunk tugging on a cop jacket...Ha ha.. apparently too much tugging ...in the US you even do not need to tug on the cop's jacket to be killed.
     
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    That is completely untrue. In the US she would never get 9 years in prison for such a petty action.

    It looks like you brought into propaganda
     
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    Wow... and the San Francisco earthquake means that no US city is ever free from falling buildings? Wow.... your left wing radical handlers are outdoing themselves with the BS. Entertaining.
     
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    The Russians claim Reed did exactly that: he fought the police.

    Seems obvious he was simply a trade asset in Russian politics. Why Russia traded him, or anyone, for a cocaine smuggler is pretty weird

    Anyway, he is back in US now after spending 3 yrs in Russia.
     
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    He's been listening to the leftists here and believes their version of the U.S.
     
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    Well, I’m against the war on drugs and advocate for regulated legalization of all “natural” drugs, which includes weed, opium, and cocaine.
    I guess, good for Reed and for Yaroshenko.
    :)
     
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    So it makes sense to you that Russia wants a drug smuggler back?

    Maybe he was the Russian version of Barry Seal who smuggled guns drugs for the CIA & Reagan.
     
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    The only think I could dig up on this guy is an attempt to smuggle drugs. I didn’t see any allegations of weapons smuggling. If he did smuggle weapons then my position would change.
     
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    But it makes sense to you that Russian government wanted to free a cocaine smuggler?
     
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    They do it for internal PR. They always try to free high profile prisoners so that they can thump on their chests at home with claims that they never leave their own behind. Also, their propaganda claims that the U.S. tortures it’s prisoners - Yaroshenko already gave an interview and made such claims.
    It’s just a patriotic PR boost for poo-tin.

    Added:
    https://ria.ru/20220428/yaroshenko-1785894517.html
    Interview where Yaroshenko claims mistreatment in the U.S. prison.
     
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    If I may offer a bit of advice:
    You are obviously not from America, and have never been or lived here. When you make a statement about how life is in America, and you have many opposing American citizens offering a differing opinion, you should probably listen to them. Your perception of American life is WAAY off.
    Just as many of the Americans offering their opinions of how life is in Russia. They probably don't really know what it's really like to live in Russia.
    It's ok to have an opinion, but it's probably a good idea to listen to those who live and work there.
    No offense, just an observation.
    Sometimes people do get killed by police in America. Almost everytime, they are resisting arrest or continuing to be a threat to others.
    But the percentage of that happening is ridiculously small. Without looking at the numbers, it's something like 150 per year out of hundreds of thousands of arrests in a country with 325+ million people.
    The "justified" aspect is thoroughly investigated in 99% of the cases.
    If I were to make a statement about life in Russia, and you corrected me, I would tend to believe you, after factoring in the fudge factor......
     
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    The above highlighted statements are contradictory.

    You simultaneously say that 9 years in prison for tugging on a cop is outrageous but killing someone for resisting arrest is justifiable. I am not sure how you're quantifying that but I'd say that dying is a much harsher punishment than imprisonment.
     
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    The person was said to have tugged on a cop's jacket not went for his gun or taser. Or tried to punch the cop in the face or kick him...

    You don't see a difference there?
     
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    Your comment was that 9 years for tugging on a cop's jacket is outrageous.
    Your other comment was that resisting arrest makes homicide justifiable.

    1. All the people killed by cops were not resisting arrest or being combative so that argument is partially false.
    2. Why is it acceptable for some people to show combativeness to law enforcement officers? What's the criteria for that pass?
     
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    How do you know the marine in the discussion did not punch a cop in the face? He was so drunken that even he himself did not remember what he had done. By the way,
    G.Floyd was killed even without any tagging of a cop. So being a guest in a prison for 9 years is better than being a host in a cemetery forever.
     
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    I'm being brash....should've just popped him one and be done with it. Shoot...shovel...shut up.
     
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    This @vis account claims to have lived briefly in USA....to me anyway....then lived in Germany....he knows f@ck all about US and its mentality. He's currently in Russia....trying to get back to Germany I understand.
     
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    Well, I'm the Easter bunny, which makes me an expert on eggs and basket weaving.
     
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