U.S. Says It Shot Down Drone That Attacked Fighters in Syria

Despite the Pentagon's denials, it is obvious to all those who follow events in Syria closely that the main focus of US forces operating in Syria isn't to take out ISIS, but to prevent Syrian and Syrian allied forces to link up with allied forces from Iraq by clearing the roads that connect them from ISIS and other terrorist groups. The Iraqi shia militia have already cleared ISIS from many of these locations and have established their positions on the Syrian border. They are waiting for their Syrian allies to do the same, but the US and the groups it is is supporting have been trying to prevent this from happening.

In the meantime, this incident underlines the fact that the US shouldn't expect to be a participant in this war and not find its troops eventually come under attack.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/world/middleeast/syria-drone-shot-down.html
U.S. Says It Shot Down Drone That Attacked Fighters in Syria

 

A couple days ago, this video was released showing an Iranian drone tracking and following an American drone in Syria.
http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/iranian-drone-footage-purportedly-shows-us-drone-in-its-sights

 

I think Syria is far too crowed, you have four other countries waging war plus the locals and their issues. If it weren't' for Israel the Americans would probably have given all this territory to Iran, now they try to tear it all apart.

I absolutely loathe having the Yanks doing a standoff here in Asia with North Korea, the Chinese are probably even more angry. It would not surprise me if they provide Iran and Russia with ample support in this Middle East conflict.

America is alienating other countries, it's going to have to get smart fast or face dire consequences.

 

US forces are an invading army and thus are legitimate targets.
If the government forces manage to kill them, it's your problem.
As is common, the US has made no declaration of war so the attacks committed in order to cause political change are terrorist in nature.

 

This whole mess in Syria - created by arming Islamist Jihadists such as Al Qaeda/Al Nusra, ISIS to fight a proxy war against Assad - is the worst foreign policy atrocity in quite some time.

This policy has so far:
- killed over 500,000 people
- turned Syria into a Jihadist wonderland and created the modern incarnation of ISIS
- put sophisticated military technology such as "manpads", shoulder launched surface to air missiles in the hands of extremists; just a matter of time before these are used to take out civilian aircraft
- created a massive refugee crisis which has furthered the spread of the plague of Islamist extremist ideology all over the world.
- destabilized one of the only, and probably the most moderate, Muslim regimes on the planet,
- destroyed many thousands of years old history and historical artifacts

I can only think of one Muslim regime off the top of my head that was actively fighting Islamist Extremists and Islamist ideology. Syria.

Somehow - in our infinite wisdom - we decided to team up with the main purveyors of Islamist extremism (Saudi Arabia) and others, to arm and support the 911 terrorist group Al Qaeda and an even worse group - ISIS to take out the Muslim regime that was doing the most to fight this extremism.

If this is not some kind of Orwellian paradigm .. not sure what is.

 

Arming Israel is the worst but this mess is in the race to be the most stupid military based **** up of all time ... unless it's deliberate.

That said, Russia is far from guilt free.

 

Shhhh, no one wants to know.
The war is all about killing nasty evil extremists and removing a very naughty government that kills civilians so killing a load of civilians is justified to get rid of the very bad man.
The fact US intervention has killed a lot more people and destroyed far more than Assad ever managed isn't a valid point. Add there was virtually no extremist activity until the US government armed and trained them is also not worth a note.

 

That's what Drones are for....

 

I take it you are referring to nukes ? I agree that this was very dumb.

 

Exactly ... there were extremists in Syria but Assad would deal with them harshly. It was for these action - trampling on the extremists - that was our supposed justification.

Shortly 911 we did not have a problem with Assad's harsh treatment of Islamists. We sent him a number of "suspected" Al Qaeda affiliates for "extraordinary rendition" - Torture. Mahir Arar is one example - a fellow who turned out to be innocent.

Fast forward 10 years and we are arming and supporting those same Al Qaeda affiliates ... because Assad was mistreating Al Qaeda affiliates. Go figure.

 

The whole mess in Syria is caused by Bashar Assad and his immediate family ... Why do you always make excuses for brutal, incompetent, president-for-
life dictators?

History Of The Government Of Syria
Between the years of 1936 and 1946, Syria negotiated, demanded, and planned for its independence from France. From 1946 through the 1960’s, the country experienced political unrest and several successful military coups.

During this time, the government was changed to a wide range of systems, everything from multi-partyism to nationalism.

Since in 1961, the country has been ruled by the Syrian Ba’ath party and has experienced decades of international conflict and internal violence.

Since 1971 till his death in 2000, Hafez al-Assad was the Ba’ath Party President of the country. Upon the death of Hafez, his son, Bashar, ran for the presidency with no political opponents. He continues to be President today.

Continued

http://www.worldatlas.com/articles/what-type-of-government-does-syria-have.html

 

Your attempts to apologize for your beloved Saud are amusing.

 

Can you point out a secular muslim country that is not rife with 'international conflict, internal violence and brutal dictators'?

I can't. This is because orthodox Islam is a savage, brutal ideolical leftover from the dark ages. The only way secularism (women not being slaves, religious diversity, order-based laws instead of religious-based laws) can exist within high-density muslim societies is with iron-fisted force. The brutality of the dictators in socially modern or secular muslim countries is a direct result of the brutality of Islam which requires a dictator to keep it 'in check.'
What we had 30 years ago was a Middle East where you were tortured to death for practicing Fundamentalist (Orthodox) Islam. The West said 'hey thats inhumane' and took out the dictators. Now we have Orthodox Islam free to practice its religion openly, which manifests as Allah is Law, death to gays, death to unbelievers, women in sex bondage, child rape, and cannibalism as psychological warfare.

But at least we're not letting dictators oppress a religion, right?

 

Where did you live in the ME 30 years ago?

 

Logical fallacy is not an argument for much.

 

America is alienating everyone with its stupidities and then they become all paranoid thinking it's due to Russian interference. Why would Russia have to interfere? All it has to do is sit back and watch Washington destroy itself... which it does very nicely all by its lonesome self.

When the US planes hit the Syrian army, they hit the Shia contingent, so now we're taking the side of 'Takfiris' who would kill us without any qualms. As for this farce about Qatar and terrorism, it's nothing more than Qatar wanting to work with Iran over the immense gas field which joins with the Qatari one.

Everything is now fitting into place. When Obama tried to make amends with Iran it was probably so the US could have a hand in developing the gas fields. This was smart, but not to Israel's liking so Trump is taking a different stance to appease them. The neo cons would no more want Iran to gain from their own gas fields, than they would want Russia to gain from theirs..

This is probably why Trump paid the Saudi's a visit, and why the King said they will form an Arab Nato. After all why have peace when you can have war? The idea was that the Sunnis would go to war with Iran... after all they are heretics, and the gas would be a nice addition to Saudi Arabia's oil.

Qatar put a spike in it by joining its gas field with the Iranian one.... and that's why Saudi Arabia is freaking out. What's even worse, they're both asking Russia to help them develop the fields. Then again Putin does prefer peace and trade to war, so who knows, maybe he did have a hand in it?


I didn't do it, I didn't do it?

 

I lived in Indiana 30 years ago.

Fortunately we have this really cool thing they teach in school and study in books called 'history.' It allows us knowledge and insight into events that we were not present to witness ourselves. You should check it out.

 

Why was "c o c k up" removed?
Do you guys have a dictionary between you, or even speak English?

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/c o c k-up

 

Thanks nice post, we have a rare moment of agreement here... many Americans would hate to hear this but Obama was on the right track.

 

In response to this claim.

"What we had 30 years ago was a Middle East where you were tortured to death for practicing Fundamentalist (Orthodox) Islam. The West said 'hey thats inhumane' and took out the dictators. Now we have Orthodox Islam free to practice its religion openly, which manifests as Allah is Law, death to gays, death to unbelievers, women in sex bondage, child rape, and cannibalism as psychological warfare."

 

The US isn't going to develop Iranian gas fields.. That's so crazy is comical.

 

This makes NO sense.

"What we had 30 years ago was a Middle East where you were tortured to death for practicing Fundamentalist (Orthodox) Islam. The West said 'hey thats inhumane' and took out the dictators.

Now we have Orthodox Islam free to practice its religion openly, which manifests as Allah is Law, death to gays, death to unbelievers, women in sex bondage, child rape, and cannibalism as psychological warfare."

What are you talking about? What countries? What is "orthodox Islam"?

 

Of course not, and that's exactly what I said. The Russians will be developing them.

 

LOLOL.. Probably not unless they intend to steal from Iran.

 

Why would a gas station steal gas from Iran? You're thinking of Ukraine.