U.S. Tells UN Security Council: Israelis in West Bank Creating One-state Reality

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  1. free man

    free man Well-Known Member

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    I know exactly who fired:
    - Over the course of 2011, 680 rockets, mortars and Grad missiles from the Gaza Strip into Israel.
    - Over the course of 2012, more than 700 rockets from the Gaza Strip into Israel.
    - Over the course of 2013, more than 50 rockets from the Gaza Strip into Israel.
     
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    Had that been the case, there would have been peace decades ago.
    What the Arabs want is the distruction of Isreal and the murder of all the Jews.
    They do not care less for a 'Palestinian' state.
    They rejected that state every time it was suggested to them, from 1947 till the present.
     
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    Yes. There was a time when Palestine believed they could oppose the theft of land for Israel.

    That time is long since passed, making your argument no more than an historic factoid.

    Arafat rejected an offer he should have accepted. That was the ONLY legitimate offer ever made.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    You've not proven anything
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The problem is where they imagine their borders to be.

    Palestinian Charter

    Article 1:

    Palestine is the homeland of the Arab Palestinian people; it is an indivisible part of the Arab homeland, and the Palestinian people are an integral part of the Arab nation.

    Article 2:

    Palestine, with the boundaries it had during the British Mandate, is an indivisible territorial unit. ......
     
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    I didn't show you the definition??? I thought I did.

    Article 6 of the Rome statute of the international criminal court states it is a humanitarian crime to forcibly move a population.

    You may read the Rome statute here:
    http://www.preventgenocide.org/law/icc/statute/part-a.htm#1

    You may read more about it here, and follow links where you have doubts:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_cleansing

    Some add the intent to create a homogeneous population - and Israel's acts include that, too.
     
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    Oh, good lord.

    The unity government of Abbas has stated absolutely that Israel is permanent and that Palestine direction is to live in peace beside Israel. It also opposes violent means, stating that statehood will be sought by legal peaceful means.

    Gaza signed onto this direction, too. For at least a couple decades Gaza has been consistent in saying that they would accept any settlement negotiated by West Bank as long as Gaza is included in voting on the settlement - which has always been the plan.

    Dredging up old documents is ridiculous. We all know that Palestine did not like having a giant chunk of their land given to Israel without even bothering to negotiate. And, yes they reacted strongly to that.
     
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    Not sure of your point. In the territory of the west bank and gaza, the ethnic muslim populations have only grown. Among the worlds highest natural population growth rates in the world.
     
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    dixon76710 Well-Known Member

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    The government also stated in 1996 that they would amend the charter to reflect these "stated" views. 20 years later and the charter still stands as their founding document and they havent gotten around to amending the charter or replacing it with something else.
     
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    The government of Palestine doesn't use that charter. They have their own documents.

    Let's remember that the UN Security Council gave them a positive review of their government and institutions, and that leadership constantly state the permanance of Israel and their dedication to a negotiated settlement.
     
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    Ill take a guess here and conclude you are just making this (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along, until you present any such document. AND, if you are referring to the Hamas charter, its just as bad except that they don't claim that "Palestine" includes Jordan.
     
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    The UN Security Council gave Palestine a clean bill of health in terms of their government and civil institutions.

    You can look up the Palestinian constitution and their rules of legislature, president, etc.

    I can't find any references to Israel or borders in any of these documents, as Palestine. I'd also note that our constitution says nothing about England or our borders, either.

    So, you have to go to those who are leading. And, it's crystal clear that Abbas is dedicated to a negotiated settlement of borders and peaceful coexistence with a permanent Israel.
     
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    Yep, as I suspected. Just making the (*)(*)(*)(*) up as you go along.
     
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    Unfortunatly, this is not a long time ago.
    The Arabs in Palestine still refuse to accept the state of Isreal.
    The Hamas charter is to murder all the Jews of the world.
    Yes, the same racist trash as was the Nazis.
    We will have to wait until they grow up and start to worry how to make their life better rather than how to murder Jews.
    Looking at what is going on in Syria and Iraq, it will take a long time...
     
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    No, that is absolutely false.

    Abbas has made that crystal clear ftom the beginning of his adminidtration. And, his unity government had that as a requirement - a requirement accepted br Gaza.

    The Hamas charter is history.

    Ignoring current direction is grossly irrespondible.

    In fact, what you are saying must be considered a lie.
     

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