UK Confirms New Coronavirus Strain Spreads More Quickly, Informs WHO

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  1. nopartisanbull

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    England's chief medical officer Chris Whitty confirmed Saturday that a new coronavirus strain which surfaced in the country could spread faster and called for greater public vigilance to reduce transmission.

    Whitty said London had informed the World Health Organization of its findings.

    Health Secretary Matt Hancock on Monday said scientists had identified a "new variant" in the south of England that could be causing infections to spread faster.........

    https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/uk-confirms-new-coronavirus-strain-spreads-more-
    quickly-informs-who-2340997

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    ''New Strain''

    Question; Will their newly distributed Pfizer vaccine work against it?
     
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    Should Trump wait until said new strain has landed at JFK/Newark/LaGuardia before taking any actions, such as banning flights TO and FROM?
     
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    Increased different strains of the COVID is one of the more likely results of larger pools of the disease.

    Encouraging infection from "Herd Immunity" by infection has these kinds of down sides.

    Avoiding infection and swift and effective vaccinations will help avoid new strains, although a yearly vaccine may be needed to keep the infections down. Or as some may say "The Herd Immunity" will be enhanced.
     
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    In reference to the 2020-2021 flu season, the CDC had to update the composition of their vaccine........perhaps due to a new strain.

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/flushot.htm
     
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    Once the COVID vaccine is simplified to eliminate the need for dry ice to protect the vaccine, taking a annual flu shot may just include the COVID vaccine, for those who prefer to be as healther as much as possible and to helping avoid spreading contagion to others who are more vulnerable even if a person has a mild case.
     
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    The Netherlands is banning flights from the UK for the rest of the year in a bid to ensure a new strain of Covid-19 identified in Britain does not spread in the country.
    London (CNN)The Netherlands and Belgium on Sunday imposed a ban on flights to the UK after a new variant of coronavirus, said by officials to spread faster than other strains, caused renewed restrictions in large parts of the country over the Christmas period.



    https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/20/uk/uk-coronavirus-variant-intl-gbr/index.html
     
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    The annual flu vaccines ONLY protect against the strains used in it's production, so the Covid vaccine now being touted as the only hope of mankind is being flanked by the viruses' natural mutation? Oh. I can't wait for the new wave of hysteria.
     
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    The flu vaccines we have been using are far more specific than are the vaccines that have been developed for COVID.

    With the flu vaccine, we've had years where the targeted strains didn't even turn out to be the major strrains infecting people that year.

    I don't have a cite, but I've read that the technology used for COVID vaccines is much less susceptible to being foiled by the constant evolutionary change that viruses are so great at.

    What I'm wondering is whether the knowledge gained in fighting COVID might result in a broader, more effective flu vaccine.
     
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    Several European nations have already banned flights from the UK. We damn well should be too.
     
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    Precaution or Hysteria?
     
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    It was clear and certain from the start that the COVID-19 virus would mutate. Anyone who is surprised here now says that it is unexpected or something like that .. is just an ignorant idiot and fool!
    Sorry, but more than enough warnings were given, because every virus mutates at some point, i.e. "changes" ... and ultimately COVID-19 is SARS 2 what?
    Another mutation, because if there is SARS 2, then there was also SARS 1, eh?
    Only with SARS 1 was it virtually harmless and did not even have a 1% death rate from normal flu, let alone from COVID-19, which already resulted in many times the worst flu deaths and infected people (only the Spanish flu is even worse).

    And as for the entry stop ... the EU reacted very quickly. The UK is no longer a member of the EU and therefore the internal EU rules do not apply here ... which ironically annoys some Brits, but hey ... you wanted Brexit, so live with all the consequences that Brexit also means!

    As for the US, it's up to Trump, because he's still in office and he's responsible, none other than him! Has he already pronounced the travel ban or are the British still happily entering the US at the moment?
    Or does Trump show the total ineptitude and stupidity like at the beginning of the year?
     
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    Two known facts;

    1. We're in the busiest ''human contact'' period of the year, and

    2. Said mutated virus spreads faster

    Thus, 1 + 2 equates to; at least ban flights from UK until early January.
     
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    Your points 1 and 2 confirm a harsh lockdown rule including contacts.
    And known facts ntil now are too...

    3. According to British scientists, the mutation apparently concerns a change in the spike protein ... which may (I emphasize possibly because it is still unclear !!!) causes a problem with the current vaccine from Pfizer and Biontech, because they are on this (old) spike Protein has been developed.

    Again the question: has the USA, so specifically, has Trump already pronounced a hard travel ban for the UK like the EU did this week end in an urgent meeting and decision? According to my information as of now, not yet ...
     
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    France is hinting it may be able to restart travel with the UK, certainly goods in a couple of hours.

    Plan to allow UK traffic could come within hours, says France (msn.com)

    There was news last night that the first case of the new strain has been found in Italy. In the UK it is not restricted to the South and South East of England. In Scotland we already have at least 17 cases ...if it acts as they say no doubt a lot more.

    Bye the way, nice to see you :)
     
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    According to UK scientists, the R number of said mutated virus has risen above ONE.......

    Why R0 Is Problematic for Predicting COVID-19 Spread

    Simply explained, R0 represents the average number of people infected by one infectious individual. If R0 is larger than 1, the number of infected people will likely increase exponentially, and an epidemic could ensue. If R0 is less than 1, the outbreak is likely to peter out on its own. R0 alone cannot definitively forecast an outbreak, but “it’s like an early warning system, in a lot of ways, for the possibility of an epidemic or pandemic,” Majumder says.

    https://www.the-scientist.com/features/why-r0-is-problematic-for-predicting-covid-19-spread-67690

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    The cost of ISOLATION "at the other end", and at Uncle Sam's expense

    VERSUS

    The cost of Covid19 HOSPITALIZATION in the U.S.

    THE MATH;

    Hospitalization, one Covid19 patient;

    a. Average days on a ventilator/in an ICU; 2 weeks

    b. Daily cost; $39,000

    c. Total; 14 X $39,000 = $546,000


    10 day Isolation per passenger;

    a. Lodging; $100 per night

    b. Food; $50 per day

    c. Total; $1,500

    d. Number of "10 day isolation'' that equates to $546,000 = 364

    e. Number of passengers on a 747; up to 467
     
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    Someone, possibly Nicola Sturgeon was saying this morning that the UK has possibly the best testing for variations in the world and it is very possible that this is already spread in other places. Last night Italy said it had found one. France also thinks it may have got there already

    France says mutated Covid strain may already be in the country
     
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    Question: why should I believe known liars with an agenda?
     
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    Well ... do you mean that this all is not true with Corona and also new mutation etc.?
     
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    I mean that known liars ought not be believed. Common Sense 101

    So many false statements from healthcare bureaucrats make me most skeptical of their future pronouncements, especially when such pronouncements are but a variation on the theme of fear.
     
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    Thank you ... much things to do and not much time in general ...

    France can't re-open alone without information to others and in an easy way ...
     
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    So the art to filter the trth out from the sources as usual.
    In general I am one of the people who is in opposition to all these deniers and silly conspiracy BS spreaders at the topic Corona :)
     
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    Yes, I know. You buy into every narrative offered by authoritarians, no questions asked. Sieg Heil!
     
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    Yes it says after consutation with the rest of the EU still I think. There is also a report of one case being found in Italy and France making the intelligent suggestion that it may be there already.
     
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