Yeah,... I guess they are popping the champagne in Moscow... What on Earth is wrong with the British Prime Minister?! Cameron Calls for European Court to Limit Its Reach By STEPHEN CASTLE
Well done Cameron for voicing the concerns that every person with half a brain knows are right , proper and even wise . It will not be long before his views will represent the majority view among EU States . One or two ill informed commentators thought that the UK had marginalised itself when it recently opposed EU proposals . It was just a matter of days before it became apparent to even the block heads that precisely the opposite had happened , and then Angela voiced the opinion that the good health of a future EU lay principally in the hands of Germany and the UK . Once again the OP has exposed himself by siding with a view that has not been thought through .
Long, long overdue. But now it has to be acted upon. The EU is a cesspool with countries that have nothing going for them trying to get those that have something going for them to get the something that they haven't got, going for them. The above paragraph seems like nonsense, doesn't it? Just like the EU.
From the resident midget. It's all about the EU. The EU is all about the EU. What isn't about the EU should be about the EU. The EU is a hotbed of corruption with millions, or even billions of Euros being wasted by tinpot unelected dictators instead of being used for the benefit of those members. The EU should blow itself up. Starting in Brussels.
Nothing a bullet buried between the eyes couldn't put right. And if we can line up Clegg and Milliband up for the same treatment, so much the better. It is about the EU too. We cannot withdraw from the ECHR (as Cameron said he wanted to before our election) because it is a requirement of EU membership, and the Lisbon Treaty requires the EU itself to accede to the Convention. Who's the midget?
for good reason seeing some rulings which are just dangerous for a nation, including being unable to deport hate preaching imams, human smugglers and more. Kindness gets punished by 3rd world thugs. and political correct politicians.
'UK' wants nothing - the footling Cameron is trying to get a bit more credit with the backwoodsmen in his Party, that's all. Like everything he does it has only accidental - though often disastrous - connection with the real world.
Yeah,... European countries in general do not extradite (this is something totally different than "deport" if the are not in order with their papers for work or residence) to countries that execute their own people via the death penalty. Latest example -- with the Megaupload-Mansion invasion in New Zealand. They arrested a couple of Germans too, and a Dutchman, as was the intent of the FBI because at least Germany (don't know for the Netherlands) don't have an extradition treaty with the States for that reason, among others.
I am more talking about these types of people... http://articles.cnn.com/2012-01-17/...tish-court-ruling-radical-cleric?_s=PM:EUROPE In other words the Brits are forced to let a hate preaching maniac inspire Muslim youth, who are already backwards and violent to be martyrs.
One could use the Law in an orginal way, DutchClogCyberborg. We call it an "achterpoortje". I'm sure that under UK Law he could be trialed for breaching the law in Jordan. That is, if the evidence was not obtained by torture. Think about it for a second. If the British, Belgian, French, Dutch (...) Courts should allow evidence from abroad obtained by torture. This of course is unacceptable. We would be digging our own grave. It would be a collective moral bankruptcy of about 800 million people. We, Europeans -- from Lisbon to Vladivostok -- don't settle for that. Sure,... It sucks we can't put away the crappy Imam -- but I'm sure there is something else they can get'm on.
No, not quite. I realize you might make the large majority of your posts there, but some people wish to remain serious. So if that is all you wish to say I kindely would like to ask you if you, please, want to bugger off? For the sake of everybody.
Telling someone from Brighton (epicentre of gay England) to "bugger off" might be seen as homophobic by some. I LOL'd! The less well known aspect of this furore is that Britain tends to be one of the more compliant members. Other countries suffer legal reversals at the Court more often than Britain, yet Cameron whines, as has been said, to placate his unruly backbenchers who need some raw meat thrown to them occasionally.
As I understand, "bugger off" is a not so nice way to say to somebody "shut your trout and go away". I guess I could have used "buzz off", but I didn't know that "bugger off" could be considered homophobic! If truely so, I apologize to Raymondo and to everyone else!
BTW -- I also didn't know that Brighton was the epicentre of gay England! Now I might visi! I always wanted to see that Indian palace over there! Meanwhile I could hold a sit-in in front of Raymondo's residence!
Britain signed the convention in 1950, long before we became a member of the EU - but anyway, not even Cameron wants to withdraw from it.
It is true that Brighton is an internationally renowned Gay centre ( one among many attractions) , though probably not as large as London and Edinburgh . Originally the City was famous for it's stage and film industry connections --- it is only fifty minutes from London by train --- and these remain strong . Which goes along way to explain our strong Club scene and booming Pub music scene . Overall Gays are a very dynamic part of our City culture and their creative , dramatic flair is ever present . The Indian Palace is the Royal Pavilion built by the young King George the Fourth when he was a roistering young buck with a string of ladies at his beck and call . I am more of a George the Fourth character than a male Gay and all are welcome for a guided tour of Brighton regardless of political outlooks --- I appreciate you are a good Conservative in real life , Janpoor . I am sure your stance is just to try and catch the attention of the elite !!!!
No Janpor the Human Rights rulings should be below the well being of society. Murderers, Jihadists and thugs are currently massively hiding behind a bureaucratic and poorly run courts which has lost all touch with reality.
Yes, I know we signed the Convention in 1950 in the aftermath of the terrible events of the second world war. (Winston Churchill was one of its founding fathers and a British MP guided its drafting. They must be turning in their graves at seeing who it is used to protect now.) And yes, I also know that Cameron does not want to withdraw from it now. It didn't stop him claiming to want to abolish the Human Rights Act before the general election. For this to have had any effect would have effectively meant withdrawal from the ECHR, because to, (a) abolish the HRA without (b) withdrawing from the Convention would have meant that cases would simply go straight to Strasbourg. So (a) without (b) was a futile gesture designed to win support from a gullible public. Cameron knows that any effective action he takes will mean expulsion from the EU and he definitely doesn't want that.
