UK will classify "Islamist extremism" as distinct ideology

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  1. Quantumhead

    Quantumhead New Member

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    As usual you merely show the board your own ignorance.

    "In the Summer of 1979, a group of powerful elites from various countries gathered at an international conference in Jerusalem to promote and exploit the idea of "international terrorism." The forum, officially known as the Jerusalem Conference on International Terrorism (JCIT), was organised by Benjamin Netanyahu, currently Israeli Minister of Finance, on behalf of the Jonathan Institute." (Ahmed 2005, p3)

    "As early as June 1979, and perhaps earlier, the United States had already commenced a series of covert operations in Afghanistan designed to exploit the potential for social conflict." (Ahmed 2005, p7)

    "Agence France Press reported that the United States launched a covert operation to bolster anti-communist guerrillas in Afghanistan at least six months prior to the 1979 Soviet invasion of the country." (Ahmed 2005, p7)

    "Central to the US-sponsored operation was the attempt to manufacture an extremist religious ideology by amalgamating local Afghan feudal traditions with Islamic rhetoric." (Ahmed 2005, p8)

    "Osama bin Laden and his family were deeply involved in the US-backed Afghan rebellion against Soviet occupation." (Ahmed 2005, p9)

    "According to Selig Harrison, an expert on US relations with Asia, the creation of the Taliban was actively encouraged by the Pakistani ISI and the CIA." (Ahmed 2005, p16)

    "Many US experts on Afghanistan concede that the rise of the Taliban occurred with the covert support of the US state." (Ahmed 2005, p16)


    Source: AHMED, NAFEEZ MOSADDEQ, 2005, The War On Truth: 9/11, Disinformation And The Anatomy Of Terrorism. Moreton-In-Marsh, Gloucestershire, England: Arris Publishing Ltd.

    The Soviets tried to employ a policy of land redistribution in Afghanistan, which was contrary to what the rich elite wanted. Many of these rich elitists were Muslim clergy, which enabled Islam to be used as a weapon against the Soviet (atheist) threat.

    You go along and keep laughing now.
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Aww... gimmi a break, will yea? The Islamic extremism, or Islamic terrorism is as old as the Qu'ran itself.

    Nice wall of text, though.
     
  3. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It hit a high note in the 1940's and never looked back!

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  4. Quantumhead

    Quantumhead New Member

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    Brother, I posted the "wall of text" precisely to support the fact that Islamic extremism is not as old as the Koran itself, but rather that it has a historically verifiable birth as a weapon created to be used against Soviet Russia in the late 1970s. There is even an emote next to the most relevant quote. Given that you have not personally attacked the author, I am presuming you have researched his credentials and consider him an academically trustworthy source.

    I'm perfectly prepared to cut you a break, but not when I explain why what you're saying isn't actually true, and you carry on saying it anyway.
     
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    trout mask replica New Member

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    You know the historical ties the Mufti had with the the allies I take it Stuart?
     
  6. Stuart Wolfe

    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, I've read up on that bozo, especially when we had M**n and J*ck N*p**r defending him to high heaven.
     
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    trout mask replica New Member

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    In that case, it's a bit disingenuous of you to have played the role of the propagandist by once again reproducing this red-herring of a photo.
     
  8. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I would group all "religious extremist" in one group, rather then say "Islamist extremist"
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You would be wrong. They are all as bad as each other.
     
  10. skeptic-f

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    True. You can literally write books on this topic, so I was trying to avoid getting into detail.
     
  11. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    confused, that is what I said isn't it?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah! You actually wrote then instead of than and I concluded you would say they were all one group and then change your mind and highlight Islam Extremists. You made a typing mistake and that led me to misunderstand what you are saying.

    Glad we are both in agreement ;)
     
  13. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why would you do that? It's been centuries since religious extremists other than islamic extremists burned people at stake, or cut heads off...
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    'God' gave you nothing. There is no 'god', only a book of stories.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yeah, but you forgot this bunch of charming Christians as just one example:
    http://www.warchild.org.uk/issues/the-lords-resistance-army

    Now, before you start with the, 'but they're not really proper Christians' argument, I'd urge you to adopt the same mindset when you refer to the tiny minority of equally deranged so-called 'Muslim' terrorists.
     
  16. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Indeed. And you've no problems calling them Christians, don't you? So, let's call this li'l bunch a Christian extremists, and every other one a moslem, or Islamic extremist.
     
  17. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    because if your gonna pass a law, make it apply to all "religious extremist".. both present and future, no matter the beliefs of the extremists

    ...
     
  18. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No argument there. But that is not what motivated Cameroon when he said, Islamic extremism has nothing to do with mainstream Islam, right? In fact, Islamic extremism is an integral part of Islam; Cameroon is just trying to appease British moslems.
     
  19. simsim50

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    REMINDES ME OF SOME ONE ELSE
    The Lord’s Resistance Army (LRA),...........PLO
    a rebel group led by Joseph Kony, ...........ARAFAT
    originated in Northern Uganda .............DONT KNOW WHERE ..MAYBE IN HELL
    as a movement to fight for the interests of the Acholi people.....INTEREST OF THE PALESTINIAN TERRORISTS AND ARAB WORLD

    Kony rapidly lost support, ....RIGHT HAMAS AND HISBALLAH R NOW ON TOP
    and for the last 24 years has led a terrifying regime targeting attacks on innocent civilians,
    (see link ) http://www.think-israel.org/freerepublic.octoberramallahlynch.html

    kidnapping children ....KIDNAPPING ISRAELI SOLDIERS THOSE WHO WERE NOT LUCKY ENOUGHT TO BE KIDNAPPED WERE ( see link ) http://www.think-israel.org/freerepublic.octoberramallahlynch.html
    and forcing ISRAEL TO RELEASE TERRORISTS !!!


    Driven out of the country by the Ugandan army, DRIVEN AWAY FROM BEIRUT...
    the LRA’s rebels (PLO TERRORISTS )are now scattered across the Democratic Republic of Congo ( WEST BANK AND GAZA )(DRC),
    Central African Republic (CAR) and southern Sudan, ....LEBANON SYRIA FRANCE ENGLAND USA AFGHANISTHAN AND ANOTHER HUNDRED LOCATIONS ALL OVER THE WORLD
    where brutal attacks continue on remote villages (see link )..http://www.think-israel.org/freerepublic.octoberramallahlynch.html
    that can take months to be reported....SURE ..MANY MANY MAJOR NEWS AGENCY COMPLETLY IGNORE (SEE LINK )..http://www.think-israel.org/freerepublic.octoberramallahlynch.html
    BUT IF BY MISTAKE A PALESTINIAN ARAB CHILDREN WILL GET INJURED EVEN AT THE TIP OF HIS HAIR ...
    ALL HELL BREAKS LOOSE !!!!
     
  20. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and making the law apply to all "religious extremist" does just that, it appeases those that believe but are not extremist....
     
  21. simsim50

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    REALLY ???
    For how much longer u gonna Twist and turn the truth...huh .
    WE R NOT FOOLISH LIKE U THINK .!!!Going on and on with stupid and lies about islam .
    And more who cares what islam says ...in fact its done every day in many islam countries !!!
    Do u think that we will be lazy soooo much as to not check it out in google this link !
    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm

    What does the
    Religion of Peace
    Teach About...

    Homosexuality



    Question:


    What is Islam's position on homosexuality?

    Summary Answer:

    Islam goes beyond mere disapproval of homosexuality. Sharia teaches that homosexuality is a vile form of fornication, punishable by death. Beneath the surface, however, there are implied references to homosexual behavior in paradise, and it has been a part of historical Arab and Muslim culture.


    http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/026-homosexuality.htm
     
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    Right on the head... Duplicitous Albion...
     
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    It's distinct because it's an offshoot, like the Great Schism in Christianity (same religion, two distinct ideologies)
     
  24. dnsmith

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    Islamist terrorists are not following the teaching of the Koran any more than Fred Phelps is following the teaching of the Bible. The idiocy which suggests that evil done in the NAME of a religion makes it a religious act is wrong.
     
  25. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ah but you could not be more wrong! It is precisely the Islamic Terrorists who follow Qu'ran to the letter. It is all in the book.
     

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