Ukraine referendum

Nobody likes Communism except those who are forced to agree with it.

 

The Washington installed junta in Kiev, were not encroaching on Russia's borders. They were killing the people who had a Russian consciousness in the South and East, so that they could change the demographics in Ukraine and insure that they would remain in power. The people living there were as much Russian as the people of Moscow, and no fake borders were going to change that.

Zalensky said that they can leave Ukraine and take their children with them. Well Putin's doing better than that. He's letting them take their land with them as well. He's great when it comes to solving problems. Now when he frees Kharkov and Odessa, the Ukrainian people can say the hell with the foreign corporations and being used as cannon fodder. This way Ukraine's wealth can go back to the people of Ukraine who until now have been suffering the lowest standard of living in Europe.

Washington and Collective West
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hypocrisy - immorality - thievery - blackmail

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At the pace Russia is losing ground, they will lose all Ukrainian stolen land within a years time and that includes Crimea. I am sure Zalensky will gladly allow Russians to leave with their children back to Russia.

 

The Ukraine is staying within its borders, Russia is not staying within its borders. Res ipsa loquitur.

 

Unsupported conspiracy theory nonsense.

 

By that reason the US was in the wrong in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, and a few others.

Sometimes when you move from one bubble to another you notice the change. Those bubbles exist, though it feels more like being in an ocean of nonsense.

 

russia is responding to terrorism on its borders just like nato responds to terrorism thousands of miles from its borders. the ctions of russia and nato are not comparable. nato is a colonial bully.

 

the bubble is MSM. do you mean to tell me you do not subscribe to the msm??

 

What's the point of this propaganda?

He's even better at creating problems for Russia. So far, he's getting beat in a conventional war and will lose unless he starts a nuclear war. NATO won't be intimidated by his threats. If he starts a nuclear war, Russia will be a pariah in the world. Many of his smartest people are leaving the country.

Russian forces are in reverse.

 

Some of the stuff I see posted as sources by the conspiracy theory types is pitiful.

 

Every situation and every war are different. For instance, I opposed the Vietnam War and our actions in Laos and Cambodia. Protecting Korea was okay.

Way too metaphorical.

 

Nonsense. Russia is the aggressor.

No, NATO is an alliance while Russia is not. NATO responded in Afghanistan because the U.S. was attacked on 9/11 from sanctuaries in Afghanistan.

Suggesting NATO is a colonial power makes a mockery of real colonislism.

 

And NATO attacked Yugoslavia, a sovereign non-NATO country that presented no threat to NATO countries.

 

Serbia and Yugoslavia because they were running a genocide. If NATO is a colonial power, how come they didn't take over Serbia?

 

For example?

 

Nonesense. NATO is the aggressor.
No, NATO is an organized criminal network, Russia isn't. NATO attacked Iraq and Libya for no other reason than neo colonialism and control of resources and financial markets.

Denying that NATO is a neo colonial syndicate is ignoring the massacres it has perpetuated in far off lands in "conflicts" that have nothing to do with Europe.

 

Oh really? Is that why 15 of the 19 terrorists/hijackers were Saudi Arabian? Remind me again why NATO didn't respond to the Saudis?

Not a single one was from Afghanistan.

Ain't nobody buying the bullshit you're selling.

 

Oh yes, the great genocide lie of Yugoslavia.

Just like the "freedom fighters" aka ISIS in Syria.

If Nato attacks countries to stop genocide, then they ought to have hit the ukraine in 2014.

 

Tbf, the hijackers were all anti Saudi govt so USA felt it wouldn't make much sense going after the Saudi govt for 911. Ibelieve the Iraq war is a better example of illegal invasion. The Afghan thing is a bit more muddy for me..

 

So you must be angry NATO isn't directly involved in Ukraine?

 

Russia isn't?

NATO was in the Balkans to stop ethnic cleansing. It was an effort to put an end atrocities on their doorstep and part of finding a raison d'être following demise of the Soviet Union. NATO maintains peace between member nations and in Europe generally. Nothing colonial about that. Libya and Afghanistan are more complicated. Both were defensive in that the two countries were used as bases for radical Muslim attacks on the West.

The relationship between Muslims and the West remains largely, though by no means exclusively, colonial. NATO will be part of that, but not itself leading colonial actions.

The West are moving away from organized religion as a means of social control. We might more profitably discuss how it could limit itself to protecting democracy.

I disagree. They all had to do with Europe and North America.

 

QAnon.

 

you never answered my assertion that the invasions of libya and iraq were for no other reason than greed.