Ukraine starts to hunt witches.

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  1. vis

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    This is true, the diplomas in Russia are sold. However, the education system can not be judged by the number of successful launchers of space vehicles. There are number of factors that influence that and state that the fails of the launchers are simply a result of bad education is completely wrong. There are a lot of highly qualified mathematicians, physicists, chemists who work outside of Russia in the companies and Universities. Sure not because they have bad education.
     
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    Again, being a doctor in some discipline does not make you a scientist or a professor. To be a scientist you need to be actively involved in research in natural sciences.
    If you consider Economics to be science than I wish you a good luck, there is nothing left to talk about.
     
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    You want to say, zoom that agriculture is not a science? :eekeyes: I wonder how many tons of weat can you grow if you do not use scietific approach to this process- like evaluating the soil properties, the temperature, humidity and many other factors. You should know this better than anyone else that growing effectively something is not just about putting the seeds in the soil.
     
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    Space launch success rate is a perfect indication of quality of Russian education. Old Soyuz vehicles fly well because they were developed by Soviet scientists who actually earned their skills. This old program continues because experience is being passed down from old workers to new ones.
    At the same time look at Russian new developments and launch failures. What happened to mars satellite probe a few years ago? How many Protons fail? Don’t you see an interesting correlation here?
    That’s actually one of the reasons Russian nuclear weapons are not taken too seriously in the US - if protons fail so many times, what is the chance that even 50% of Russian missiles will lift off?
     
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    Yes, being a doctor of philosophy does not make one a professor, but any professor should have PhD. Yes, I consider Economics a science and advise you to watch Beautiful Mind if you do not think so. If you think that being a scientist is to be involved in the research in natural sciences, then you do not understand then what is science. Following your definition, for example, mathematics is not a science. Which is totaly wrong. May I ask you what is your background/education?
     
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    Old Soviet vehicles flied not only because of the excellent scientists, but also because of much more financial investments and responsibility of people. One could easily finish in Siberia, if did not fulfill the dutuies at that time. Now it is not the case. No responsibility- no quality. Has nothing to do with education.
     
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    I kind of feel sorry for the kid. He's not very smart walking around with the Ukrainian flag on his bag. It's only going to get worse as the Poles are kicked out of Britain and they retaliate on the Ukrainians in Poland.

    But the Gallicians are idiots. When they were asked not to flaunt Bandera's picture, which would be the equivalent of flaunting Hitler's picture to the Jews, instead of apologizing, they were angry with the Poles for insulting their hero.

    Is it any wonder they were so easily manipulated into destroying their country.
     
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    I’m not sure of how relevant your question about my education to this debate is, but OK. I have a bachelors in accounting and masters in business administration. I’m a director of finance in a very well known company in the city I live in.
    Mathematics is a natural science. So is chemistry, biology, physics and astronomy.
    You can never become a scientist in accounting, business administration, economics, agriculture, philosophy and other such subjects because they are not exact. On another hand, math, physics, biology, chemistry and other natural sciences laws work everywhere - on other planet, star systems, universes, etc. Thats why accounting, economics, agriculture and theology are not sciences.
    Also, I have enough creds to be an instructor at a high school or a college or even university and I can teach accounting, economics, marketing and business administration. That still doesn’t make me a professor or a scientist.
    Get back to our planet and stop dreaming that you are something you are not.
     
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    The subject you refer to is biology and genetics, not agriculture.
     
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    You can throw as much money at a problem as you want, but if you don’t have the skill than there is nothing you can do, no matter how much money you throw at your problem.
     
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    I never said anything about agriculture , ....I mentioned earlier about law, theology, pharmacy, college of eduation(BeD,Bachelor of Education, or a teacher), agriculture...yes, theres science in agriculture depends on crop, seed, animals, forage, I studied crop and forage, crossing certain varieties of grains(wheat, oats, barley, canola, corn, soybeans, chick peas, forage seeds such as alfalfa, brome grass, clovers, triticale, mainly for cattle/livestock feed. Then theres Vet Med (veterinary medicine), that's a hard science where one treats animals(veterinarian), thats6-7 yrs in college. I just have BSc in Ag,.
     
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    Digital Signal Processing. It's a kind of math.
    Sorry, you ARE fat. By the way, what's your height and weight? :)
    As Jews say - Is that a life?
    See here. If you want to have such girl, you have to live in my old Siberian town.
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    If you have such girl, you live in America :)
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    If you live in the real brick house, you live in my old Siberian town.
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    If you live in a cardboard house, you live in America.
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    if you eat a such dish, you are a real Russian.
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    if you eat a such..., you are an American. :) :) :)
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    I call as a stupid only a person, that doesn't know why a professor is a scientist in Russia. Sorry, dude, they treat you as you deserve.
     
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    Sorry, what does it mean "one can stand Russians"?
     
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    I can't getting used to American custom... In Russia if you are a husband then you are a man. If you are a wife then you are a woman. If you are a professor, you are a scientist... In America it seems not so clear... :)
    I sat in his chair only. He was a chairman of United States Senate Committee on Armed Services (as I could recall) and he was busy...
    You were a Lord of the world. Because of your idiotism you lost this position. Other nations never lost something like this :) So you are idiots, not others :)
    Are you sure? :)
    We landed on Venus. But we did it before...
    Digital Signal Processing.
     
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    Well ... but in the USA and if being US citizen, she had could done this threats in public becuase backed by 1. Amendment and buy the necessary weapons too, becuase backed by 2. Amendment ...

    Anyway ... no matter what happens in Ukraine, the Pro Russians bash on the Anti Russians and reversed all the time for mostly BS issues and blame each other like mad. Truth is the first victim of this madhouse discussion here... and interests no one of both sides!
     
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    It's interesting... Could this person be presented in high society?
     
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    Wow...
     
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    :)
    You are too polite, I've a I have suspicion you live in Europe :)
     
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    It's something new. For doctorate degree in philosophy keepers :)
    All Western scientists are shocked...
    Now all Russian scientists are shocked too... Specially in area of economics or philosophy. As for me in Russian terms I have the Degree in Electrical Engineering.
     
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    In God you believe, I know :)
    Thus st256 didn't buy his PhD. Because he is a real professional.
    In this case who did this?

    Now you're defenseless against us.
     
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    Before, you have to explane to these guys what is a "Western" and what is a "country" :)
     
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    Lady, my surname ends with the syllable "ko". It means I am an Ukrainian. Nobody ever look at me bad in the USSR because of my nation. And I never did it. As for atrocities of Ukrainians, you are right... But in the USSR it was not possible to say about it. It was strongly prohibited. Maybe this is a reason of the modern state of Ukraine?
     
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    Obviously Ukraine has been fighting for their independence and freedom... They want Tsarist invaders and looters go back where they've come from...
     
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    Ladies, every one of us involved in this discussion is an idiot. It seems, me, too. I'd like to keep my English only. I like American jazz, American literature... I adore wine, and I've never tasted American one! But... I'm talking here whether the professor can be a scientist or not... my God! This is the real America??? It seems only you could keep a conversation going here in such areas :(
     
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    Pardon? Independence?? From whom??? Ukrainians ruled the USSR! What did you mean, dear kid? :) :) :)
     

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