Ukrainian nationalists vandalize Russian state-owned cultural center in Kyiv

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  1. vis

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    What can one expect from Ukraine now? Ukranian nationalists can only destroy, they are not capable to build up something. At the same time Ukranian police do not stop the vandalism- so that becomes clear that it is approved by the state. Not suprisingly that EU now cuts the financial support of Ukraine which sinks into chaos.

    https://www.kyivpost.com/ukraine-po...russian-state-owned-cultural-center-kyiv.html
     
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    It's Ukraine. They have large Neo Nazi militias. We all know what "nationalism" means here
     
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    What took them so long? I would have thought they'd destroy it years ago... it's what I would do if you invaded my country.

    The EU still supports Ukraine.. the funding cut was for 6 checkpoints, delays and corruption in the tender process... something Ukraine has in common with Russia
     
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    Stop another Vietnam. Or Afghanistan, Iraq, etc.
    Time to surrender Ukraine.
    Let the Ukrainians have it.
    Even though they be akin to Russians
     
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    Very strange- blame Russia for invasion and yet to go there and work, and at the same time destroy Russian cultural centers in Ukraine. What has to do culture with politics?These vandals remind me Nazis who burnt the books in the centre of Berlin in 1933.

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    I copied this from the article..

    Nice spinning propaganda. Ukraine is in the mess it is in because of the CIA aided coup. You can still hear the Nuland phone call to the american ambassador in Ukraine as she on behalf of the obama admin chose who would be the new leader after the coup. So, we knew it was coming because our own CIA and some of their proxies, NGOs had worked in helping the overthrow of an elected president.

    So, while we accuse russia of interfering in our elections via social media, here is how you do it if you are the USA. You covertly assist in ginning up a coup, to remove the person you don't want leading Ukraine. You want interference in another nation? This is how you do it. With blood, death, war. And we are so good at it!! Social media is for wimps. And the nonserious.

    The coup against the elected president sent russia into crimea, for obvious reasons, to save a warm water port and access. For it was at risk with the coup and the usurpation of a sovereign gov't. But not a military intervention, but a democratic vote which they knew given the number of russians there, they would win. And it probably would have never happened except for the CIA aided coup. Russia could not trust the people the US was setting up. Cannot blame them.

    I would imagine russia's history with crimea and ukraine goes back farther in years than we have been a nation. Crimea must be in the interests of russia's national security. Something they could not risk losing, under a CIA enabled coup upon an elected president. And we talk about russian meddling in our election from social media ads and posts? lol
     
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    state owned cultural center"? you sure it isn't FSB hideout veezko? Not capable to build something"? yes well they trying to build a state smazhok vis, but these moskalis invade and attempt to destroy, so if anything its these moskalis that attempt to destroy, you don't seem to understand, lol, yob yohoh madj.

    Something like cops do in Donetsk and Luhansk , stand by, and let Strelkov/girkin russki mir terrorize local population...no?
     
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    As good as it is to see you back V... I disagree with you, culture has everything to do with politics... since the dawn of time. Culture is what colonisation is all about, instead of killing the natives of a country the invading force would colonise... or force the locals to take on their culture...
     
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    How come you work in Germany...vis...moskalis rape Germany...hate Fritzes und Ganzes..."panienka davai, davai"??
    you always talk of "Nazis", you must have some admiration for them, did you read "mein kampf" maybe?
    How come you never talk of stalinovka zvolotch who made deal with Gitler to divide polakia, or this doesn't fit you philosophy, only like bashing so called"ukranian Nazis". what about your skinheads in muscovshchyna who prance around singing about "Deutschland uber alles"? being a hypocrite aren't we?
     
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    :))) If you invaded my country I wouldn't destroy books of Mark Twain or Jerom Sallinger. I would join the army to fight with your army avoiding killing American civilians... What's wrong with you?

    When did EU delayed any financial help to Russia because of corruption? Russia is very different to this extent. We don't have a puppet government who is too corrupt to even serve several controlling people abroad (not even speaking about the people of Ukraine).
     
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    I wouldn't join the army, for me that would mean a quick death with little gain (bit like your Stalingrad)... I would opt for devious... I'm not physically strong, mentally is a different issue, my best odds for survival would be to become most "devious"...or.... I could throw my shoe at you, if it hits at the right angle that could be quite lethal :lol:

    Well Russia isn't part of the EU therefore they would not have been any financial help to delay :)
     
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    Ah, you see everywhere FSB- too much watching films about spies? :) That is not not normal, zoom. No, they do not try to build anything. What I see is only destruction- monuments, buildings. What did they do with the city center of Kiev? It was a very nice city centre in 2014 and they made of it a **** in 2014! There were no Russians who made those ****- only bandera people and criminals+ Americans. What the hell Nuland did there during coup? Have one seen any high Russian officials in the streets of Kiev at that time? No.
     
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    I did not dissappear scarlet, I was mainly reading the posts without comments, but thank you. I think you got me wrong. When I say that culture has nothing to do with politics, I mean that say music, ballet, theatre performances (classics), literature- is a constant human value, while politics- is something temporal. One can forbid to play Tchaikovskiy in the Ukranian theatre, or forbid to sing Anna Netrebko in the concert halls, or burn the books by Tolstoy, Chekhov or Dostoevskiy- but this will indicate only the low level of development of those who do this. What kind of politics is in music of Rakhmaninov? What kind of politics is in novel Anna Karenina by Tolstoy?
     
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    Yes, they don't build anything yet....lol...sure, all you see is destruction of monuments &buildings? Sure one has to get rid of all that useless post Soviet crap like Lenin statues, stalin, Beria, Felix, all those KGB former buildings, failed philosophy garbage you know, then one can build, vis. Like buying new property, throw out old ****, bring in yours, something like moskalis did after WW2:)).

    What about Kyiv back then, you were there? Russians don't do crap like that? What about LDPR,strelkov/Girkin vatniks, you forget or selective memory?
    Is Kyiv center still like that? Is there still petrol bomb throwers veesko?
    High russian officials? Who knows? In the shadows shooting at protestors, or maybe it was Right Sector that did that according to TV.Ru urinals?
    Yes according to most vatniks all ukranians are banderites/Ss Galicia/Wolf's hook Ss Das Reich/Ohlendorf/Jeckeln who doesn't agree with stalinist 5 yr pogroms, veesko.
    What of those 5 yr plans....muddy roads, straw thatched roofs, coal oil lamps?:))),lol. Yob yohoh madj...lol.
     
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    Not only do Ukrainians go to Russia to work, but Russia is Ukraine's largest trading partner according to the latest statistics from Ukraine. In 2017, Russian exports to Ukraine rose by 40% to a grand total of $7.2 billion, according to official statistics. The National Bank of Ukraine already noted that trade with Russia is greater than that with the EU.


    http://www.ukrstat.gov.ua/operativ/operativ2016/zd/ztt/ztt_u/ztt1216_u.htm
     
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    I can't understand you Galatians. You destroy statues of Lenin who is the real father of Ukraine, and worship Bandera for helping you massacre the Poles. Now you run to Poland for support, but it won't be for long though. They will be leaving the EU. Germany is tired of supporting them.

    If you hate Lenin and Stalin so much and everything they represent, then prove it with real actions, not stupidities - like for instance giving back the lands they gave you. Now that would show the Russians you have pride and self respect and are not lowering yourself to the level of others.

    Instead you're acting like spoiled brats, who hate Mother Russia for not giving you enough money to become Germany's servant, and are forced to grovel like beggars at their feet. Grow up!
     
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    Forgetful me, I forgot to post the map of the territories given by Lenin and Stalin:

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    They destroy not only buildings and monuments, but also culture- typical behavoir of barbars. Russians did not destroy anything after WW2. Where did you got that information? Probably in UFO forums? :mrgreen:
    What about LDPR? Zhirinovsky was not noticed in Kiev at that time. Strelkov and others appeared much later after the coup in Kiev. Looks like you confuse origins and consequences.
    Now you start to talk like Litwin, zoom :mrgreen: Tell me the truth, is it you Litwin?
     
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    I miss Litwin.. he always had the most interesting threads of non mainstream news...
     
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    Typical behavior of "barbars", yes of course, but fine upstanding gentlemen like koba, Felix, Lavrenti, Lazar kaganovich who murdered ukranians in holodomor are not "barbars" like you say?? You're a strange lad?:wierdface:vis.
    Russians don't destroy anything? No, they just murder and annex territory by accident? Are you sure you're not using "krokodil", by saying this?
    Oh , how do you know strelkov in kyiv, besides Donbass? You must have direct line to the mongrel?
    I'm not litwin, although he did get under moskalis nerves when the account was here. It was amusing watching the moskals get into s*** munitions,LOL.:))
     

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