Ukrainian Women !cries!for our Help,Saudis can cut her throat any Moment!

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  1. Margot

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    What does being Wahabi mean?

    According to the outside world and media, it is a form or sect of Islam that goes back to Sheikh Mohamed bin Abdulawahab. But to Saudis, especially the central region it is a sub-tribe of the Tameem tribe which coincidentally Sheikh Mohamed and I both belong to.

    To set the record straight, no Saudi calls himself Wahbi unless they belong to the sub-tribe I mentioned above. To us Sheikh Mohamed was just another famous big sheikh who also happened to be into politics. He did not start a new Islamic sect. What he did do was educate people in the central region.

    The central region is practically an out of the way desert. Sheikh Mohamed was born here in Al Uyyanah, not far from Riyadh. He travelled to Makkah, Medina and Iraq to study Islam and then he came back and taught his people. At that time, people here were illiterate, superstitious and many had forgotten or never learned the basics of Islam. There are even stories about paganism and idol worshipping.

    So he came back to teach people. And he also made a pact with an ancestor of Al Saud, that he would take care of the religion and Al Saud would take care of bringing unity and government to our people.

    Sheikh Mohamed, contrary to popular western belief, was not an ultra conservative hell bent against women and human rights. He barely delved into these issues. He had religiously bigger issues to take care of with wiping out paganism and the worship of saints and reeducating people on how to pray! He was also busy stifling the spread of Shiaism.

    His main focus was to resume the monotheism condition of Islam. He did such a great job that by the time he was through, the region had all the basics of Sunni Islam down. So much so that for the next two centuries, many many so-called sheikhs sadly had nothing better to do but twiddle their thumbs and create petty fatwas. For example, one that I came across written in the late eighties, early nineties that women should be discouraged from watching soccer matches on TV because the excitement of seeing men in shorts running around is too much for her fragile emotional health. That was a FATWA!

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    http://saudiwoman.me/2008/08/28/what-does-being-wahabi-mean/

    Wahabis have been fighting terrorism for well over a decade.
     
  2. litwin

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    ye, was a radical by any means. stop BSing , better do something for this poor women
     
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    Litwin.. you have fallen for a steaming pile of crap.
     
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    you are a main crap expert here, you are defending wahhabism and linking to a female wahhabist blogg? are you umbilicil or?
     
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    Im not the EU.
    Not with the resources.
    Not with the guns.
    Not with the people.
    And what is most important, not with the diplomacy or the ties in Syria.
    Take for example the French, they have 100 years of ties with Syria.
    I do expect them to be able to help. But they just don't care.
    All they care is making a profit and noding their heads.
     
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    The Saudis know more about Sunni Islam than you will ever know.. because you are basically a closed-minded hater.
     
  7. litwin

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    Egyptians know more about " Sunni Islam", why do they hate you?
     
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    Egyptians don't hate me.. Where did you get such a ridiculous idea?

    But, you should remember that Egypt still has a high rate of illiteracy... and democracy or civic participation requires a literate populace.

    They are having a tough time of it.
     
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    Egyptians hate Saudis . new you talk about democracy?LOL
     
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    I'm from Alabama.........

    Democracy and democratic participation requires a free press, a literate population, a robust middle class and some concept or experience of civic participation.

    The Egyptians have a long struggle ahead of them.
     
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    Al Qaeda?

    :laughing:

    Surely no one still believes them the cartoon narrative that the like of Cheney, Bush, Rumsfeld, and the other traitor Neo Cons(sic), tried to sell ya?

    Almost as convincing as those hi tech underground 'worlds', that we were all assured were both read AND prolific. All later shown to be made up crap.

    Honestly, sometimes I think you deserve it, because the windowlickers among the masses will believe any garbage told to them, so long as the narrator is a liar in an Armani suit.

    They could probably sit in an office today, and by 6pm have come up with an ALL NEW TERROR MENACE. Give it a name. Filter it out across the global media. Get some lying bastards to repeat it, over and over again - hey presto, the mass are won over, and guess who is now going to FIGHT THE MENACE - yeah, those that invented it. At your expense. And you would cheer them on all over again, and maybe cede more of your civil liberties, as well.

    Al Qaeda were never an organisation, with a central command structure, like the IRA, for example. They are not an organisation, per se. They did not self identify as Al Qaeda, they ran with the name that was given to them. The name, I believe, translates to 'the base'. They are killers and agitators for hire, plain and simple. They have links with the CIA, of that I have no doubt. 'The base' may even really mean 'database', such as a 'database' of hired killers and other such mercenaries, that, ironically, can be hired and used, by the CIA, as and when it suits.

    Al Qaeda are most definitely not on the side of Muslims, Arabs, or anything else, of that I am sure. It is said, if you want to take the 'offical account', that they actioned 911, due to the fact that they blame the US for a biased policy toward Israel. That last part is true, of course, and yet, if 19 men, and some crude equipment could be used to hijack planes, and navigate them skillfully into buildings, one must wonder why the same Al Qaeda were NOT able to have conducted a similar operation, not aimed at Israel's proxy, but Israel themselves? Why not, if Israel was the common denominator for them, why did they not try it, at source?
     
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    Quite true, Jack.. AQ like the 9-11 terrorists have done NOTHING except hurt Muslims and the Arab world.
     
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    whats about Saudis and democracy?
     
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    it was organisation only a short period of time, IN A-stan in 80s, when CIA and Saudis created it
     
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    Well, I don't have a crystal ball.. but I think KSA will morph into a constitutional monarchy since they already rule by consensus.

    Further the clerics and ulema are rethinking Sharia law..

    As I said earlier.. Saudi Arabia (at the heart of Islam) was largely illiterate even 40 years ago.. so what they thought was Sharia law was largely based on illiteracy, superstitions and ancient tribal customs.

    KSA took a huge step backwards in 1979 and 1980 because of the Iranian Revolution and the attack on the Grand Mosque.

    You, of course, will be left in the dust with your outdated concepts and visceral hatred.

    Is English your first language?
     
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    More or less what I am saying.

    They are not what they were sold to us as being, by any stretch of the imagination.

    People are hysterical morons, no wonder War of the Worlds created such a reaction, back in the day.
     
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    There are working a lot of terrorist organizations including al-Qaeda. There is an information that kidnappers demand about $50 mil for Akhnar Kochneva. But it’s a f-ing unreal sum for one person. Or may be they want to exchange this girl for someone of theirs mates.
     
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    any link?
     
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    Here you are.
    Незадолго до появления второго ролика матери Кочневой звонили, предположительно, ее похитители, потребовавшие выкуп в размере $50 миллионов. То, что в деле впервые начали открыто фигурировать деньги, может свидетельствовать о проблемах с достижением "политической" договоренности и об ухудшении положения похищенной.
    http://www.utro.ru/articles/2012/12/09/1088647.shtml
    And tell me pls it was your joke or you are just naive? >
     
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    Незадолго до появления второго ролика матери Кочневой звонили

    Aye, cheers for this!!!
     
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    in short, there is an information that someone called her mom and demand about $50 mil for Anhar Kochneva.
     
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    It looks like English backwards, and in a mirror...
     
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    yep the language of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky ;)
     
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    http://translate.google.se/#ru/en/
     
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    [video=youtube;GKS7_j4bnA4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKS7_j4bnA4[/video] second video . any Arab here `?who can help?
     

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