UN nuclear watchdog: Iran has carried out experiments in the final stage for nuke.

http://www.haaretz.com/print-editio...e-iran-is-developing-nuclear-weapons-1.393920

Time to nuke Iran, or else.

 

Hysterical, warmongering crap.

 

I just dont care.
This doesnt worry me a bit, am I a bad person?

 

You're definitely getting too much of something.

 

Sly ... how could the Iranians go from 3.5 % nuclear material to 90% overnight?

Meir Dagan says they have no nukes and he was right about Iraq in 2002.

 

You need to get a job with the IAEA, preferably a supervisory one. Obviously they have no clue and you have a lot to teach them.

 

Nonsense. There is no released report. Rabble-rousers are transparently useless.

 

I wonder when the IAEA will feel compelled to sort out the problem of Israel having nukes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction

 

Let's get real.. Everyone remember Israel's push for the US to attack Iraq.

There were no chemical weapons, no bio weapons and no WMDs..

The Bush administration tried to claim that Saddam was trucking his WMDs between Sudan and Syria, but every American in the ME knew that Iraq was broken after 2 decades of war and sanctions.

Then they tried to claim that Cholrine used for water purification was a bio weapon... never mind there water plants had been busted for a decade.

Then they tried to claim that every refrigerated step van was a mobile bio weapons lab.

Forgetting of course, that it gets hot as h*ll in Iraq and ALL Perishables are transported in refrigerated step vans.

It was Keystone Cops and it cost the US 4,000 soldiers and 30,000 maimed... as well as 10 years and a trillion dollars...

Don't be flip with me...

Israeli propaganda doesn't cut any ice with Americans.

 

LOL, don't look here, look over there, JOOZ. Do you mind to wonder about it in any one of a hundred anti-Israel threads started by moon and co every day. This thread is about Iran, please don't pollute it with irrelevant information if you have nothing to contribute.

PS Israel unlike Iran is not a signatory to the NPT, the IAEA therefore has no legal authority over it. It does however have full authority to investigate Iran and publish its findings and condemnations.

 

No one remembers that because it never happened. In fact a number of Israeli politicians tried to talk Bush out of attacking Iraq at the time. There was absolutely no Israel's involvement in the US decision to invade Iraq and oust Saddam Husein.

PS what I just said to Junobet is applicable to you as well. Try to stay focused, this thread is about Iran, not Israel.

 

Meir Dagan tried, but the Israeli press was pushing hard about how AFRAID Israel was of Iraq.. and all those dual citizen zio-cons from the PNAC had been lobbying to take Saddam out since 1998.. with their grandiose plans to redraw the borders in the Arab world.

Doved tailed perfectly with Netayanhu's CLEAN BREAK STRATEGY...

You should butt out or enlist in the IDF.

 

Are you AFRAID of the WHOLE quote, Borat? Anyone who followed the war knows all that did happen.. But Israelis weren't fighting in Iraq... so according to you it didn't happen.

 

So predictably you came up with zero evidence that Israel had anything to do with the invasion of Iraq.

Now back to the subject of this thread, you don't have a shred of evidence but still blame the war in Iraq on Israel. Now that you have evidence in the upcoming IAEA report that Iran is close to building a nuke, do you still believe that they are just trying to harness the peaceful atom? LOL

 

Unfortunately Israeli propaganda cuts a lot of ice with the various flavours of Zionists in the US......and add the anti-Muslim crowd.and you have a fair chunk of right wing America.

Not as many in the UK.but then as long as our Government and a large proportion of the MPs not in Government are "friends of Israel" it makes little difference.

I'd kinda like it if our Government and MPs actually got round to being "friends of the Uk population".

 

Israel has AIPAC and JINSA and the ADL and the JDL.. They are full time propaganda outfits that keep detailed records if any American Jew feels the slightest bit insulted.. Its a full time job.

I keep telling the Saudis that they should buy 100 or so US politicians like AIPAC does.

 

According to Seymour Hirsch the power of Prince Bandar and the Saudi lobby was so great that Bandar effectively joined the Bush administration as a virtual member of the cabinet.[1]

George Washington University Professor Hossein Askari blames the "power of the Saudi lobby in Washington" for the failure of the American government to defend the democracy protesters in Bahrain in 2011. According to Askari, "our marriage to the Al-Sauds threatens our (American) national security

In the first decade of the 21st century the Saudis have paid about $100 million to American firms to lobby the American government.[4]

Major lobbying firms that work as lobbyists in the pay of the Saudi government include Hill & Knowlton, which has been employed to lobby for Saudi Arabia since 1982.

The Middle East Policy Council has received large payments from Saudi Arabia to lobby for the Kingdom, including $1 million in 2007.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudi_Arabia_lobby_in_the_United_States

 

I don't care whether it's Jews, Muslims, Christians or Aliens from Mars who have nuclear weapons.

And if there was a country mainly populated by aliens from Mars, I'd think it to be just as outrageous if they didn't sign the NPT and secretly acquired nukes as I find it outrageous that Israel won't sign it and secretly acquired nukes

And if I was an Iranian and Israel's and America's nukes pointed at me, I'd probably want to have some too, just to uphold some deterrence.

Maybe it's time you started to judge things with equal measures.

 

The IAEA lacks jurisdiction over Israel, India, Pakistan and North Korea. The first three never signed the NPT and the latter withdrew from the Treaty.

 

It isn't about that.

You have to create an extremely controlled explosion with specially shaped charges that slap an immense pressure wave onto the fissile core of the weapon to compress it into a runaway reaction.

The iranians are obviously testing various methods of fissile implosion techniques and analyzing the results before wrapping a uranium core with the specially shaped charges when they have enough in the future.

 

There is no obligation on anyone's part to be impartial. Every nation has its own interests at heart.

 

No you don['t seem to understand. The Global community as a whole has decided that no further countries should possess nuclear weapons. We, as a global community, have the ability and the power and the authorization to use force if necessary to prevent any more nations from developing nuclear weapons.

WE get to decide, not the Iranians, and its perfectly within our rights to stop anyone we want from aquiring nukes in any way we see fit.

People need to quit acting like Western Civilization doesn't (*)(*)(*)(*)ing rule the world still. Until China does, we're king and what we say goes.

 

I do care, most people in the world with half a brain care.

I can't, sorry, moral equivalence is not quite my cup of tea. Cultures are not equal, religions are not equal, states defending their rights to exist are not equal to states trying to wipe neighbors off the map...I judge things on merits and if you ever try you'll see that they won't measure equally.

PS Did I mention that nuclear weapons in the hands of a responsible western democracy is far less dangerous than nuclear weapons in the hands of religious fundamentalist fanatics, already sponsoring terrorism all over the world.

 

Wonder if you'll still be saying that when the rest of the world gets sufficiently hacked off with US megalomania to decide to remove them from their position of power.

After all......all it would take is an attack on the US currency...and Kaboom....the dollar would collapse as a global currency and destroy the American economy!

Who needs nuclear weapons..the threat to the dollar was the reason for the Iraq attack....and the current threats against Iran...nothing to do with WMD/nuclear weapons....more to do with their stated intentions to replace the dollar as the oil currency. Same reason, in fact, as the "intervention" in Libya...because Gadaffi was trying to get the oil states to dump the dollar and trade in the gold dinar.

America is shooting itself in the foot repeatedly.....and have not yet realised that they are only important as long as the dollar is the oil currency. Hack off enough oil producing nations..and that will stop....and you will be hard pushed to do much militarily about it as mobilising a military costs big bucks you don't have any more.

That was part of the thinking by Bin Laden, I believe.....because he knew that terrorists will always exist and the more encouragement given to the paranoid to throw money at a useless military "cure", the more National Debt rises....and the nearer the precipice the US economy gets.

 

If America's economy collapses, all of Western Civilization goes with us.