Unarmed woman is shot by Police in Capitol. The People Who Scream ‘Police Brutality’ Don’t Care.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    That doesn't mean "ENTIRE city!"

    What does this have to do with the comparison between the BLM riots and the Capitol riot? How many black people were shot by police with real bullets during the BLM riots?

    So when white people are "busy killing cops" they NEVER get shot by the police? :roflol:

    I only mention BLM because you cannot say that those riots were AT ALL bad!
    While you say that the Capitol riots were VERY bad! You literally cannot bring yourself to say that the BLM riots were even a TINY bit bad! :roflol:

    Which is why I specified "property damage." The BLM riots resulted in more property damage. That's just a plain and simple FACT! Again, this doesn't mean that the BLM riots were worse! Just different! You however, don't think that they weren't bad at all! :roflol:

    The point still stands that investing in community programs doesn't require defunding the police.

    I didn't mention raising taxes.

    Weren't you wondering why the police were so dominated and overwhelmed by the rioters?

    Ridiculous. Every police force has different procedures. You're trying to compare the DC Police to other police who responded to riots in the summer and use that as evidence of systemic racism. It doesn't work!
     
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    And Maxine Waters did not say VERBALLY "push." And suggesting that there is such a thing is just utterly ridiculous, but there is you! And I guess that you don't like it when women talk about FIGHTING for their rights! It must be PHYSICAL fighting, right? :roflol:

    Then why did Trump need to constantly condemn white supremacy by name?

    So Trump didn't condemn the Capitol riot?

    When did Trump claim to not know who the proud boys were?

    The fact is that Trump didn't specifically tell the rioters that he loved them!

    Meanwhile, you cannot bring yourself to condemn the minority of people who rioted in the BLM riots! DOUBLE STANDARD!

    "Materialistic things got destroyed." This just shows your unbelievable ignorance! Those "materialistic things" were people's LIVELIHOODS! LIVELIHOODS got destroyed! You're downplaying the BLM riots. You have shown your true colours! BLM riots = totally GOOD. Capitol riot = totally BAD! :roflol:

    No, MURDER is on par with murder! There was murder during the BLM riots! You're totally clueless! :roflol:
     
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    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Biden's election. What do you think?
     
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    When the ENTIRE media was also grilling him, Fox News would often join in.

    Do you believe that this is how it worked?

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/19/donald-trump-fox-news-sunday-chris-wallace-interview
     
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    Nonsense ... they founded BLM movement and being a somehow VIP that give their face and voce for the movement ... but they are not the leaders, charimen or something like this! ROFL... why not telling the hundred of all other black VIP who support BLM, ehm ... or even all the white VIP supporting BLM doing so too?

    And by the way .. of course were there sme BLM activists who say that the looting was somehow reasoned as repartion payment etc. ... but there were thousands of them who don't condone the riots and looting etc. There are also countless many examples of BLM activists stopping others doing grafitti sprays, looting and violance against law inforcement too ... and many of them they stopped were not black people, but white!

    But this right wing press and propaganda BS of course denies and ignores these things and marked only the few examples of BLM people who say riots are OK etc. ... and then unfortunately people believe this BS what this righty and often racist scum tells!
     
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    Wow ... one example! Do you have more as this one?
    But even here in this article ... following content:

    "Part of the interview’s shock value lay in which network broadcast it: Fox News, which has only recently seen its cozy relationship with Trump start to erode."

    Any quations?

    And aisde this ...
    Trump had a war with the media long before he entered politics and became a POTUS! Like every VIP there were things where he was the victim, but also things where he more than deserved to be grilled! And the Trumponians forget one thing: it was he who started the war with the media as a candidate and then as POTUS, not the media! May you remember that it started as POTUS when he was inaugurated? What about his ridiculous claim that there were more people at his inauguration than at Obama? He was refuted with facts and for him it was all fake news ... and only he knows the true alternative facts! And then there are unfortunately enough stupid American people to this day who believe this and all the countless lies of Trump to this day as the truth!

    There are rumors that Trump wants to create his own media empire ... I would have the right name for it: FNN = Fake News Networks!
     
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    Well, there's that.
    Fear mostly.
     
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    We're talking about Donald chanting to go and fight like hell, and get that country back.
    There is no such thing as verbally fighting like hell. You're Maxine comparison is irrelevant.


    Not the point. The point is that he expressed his love to his fascists who attacked the Capitol.


    Did he not express his love to the people who attacked the Capitol?
    You go find me where Biden expressed his love to BLM looters.

    Presidential debate, where he told the whole lot of fascists to stand back and stand by.... to have them fight like hell on the 6th.

    Fact is he did not exclude them either.

    Oh I condemn them riots. I just keep on pointing at that YOU drag in BLM riots AGAIN and AGAIN, to compare breaking windows and stealing tv's to attacking the democratic core of the US... as if it's all and the same.

    You show your true colors to keep on comparing breaking windows and stealing tv's to attacking the democratic core of the US... as if it's all and the same.

    Fascists killed 1 BLM protester, and not the other way around in Charlottesville.
    And Donald responded that "there was violence on both sides" to the great joy of the fascists that the looting is on par with murder.
    Just like you keep on dragging in BLM riots and compare them to the fascists who attacked the democratic core of the US...
    as if it's all and the same.
     
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    Only a TINY TINY fraction of the city was burned, and it remains that you dishonestly painted a totally different picture.
    That is what matters.

    Your last question is AGAIN you comparing attacking cops, the Capitol, terrorizing politicians, chanting that you're out to lynch them when busy looking for them, with looting and arson random stores. It remains so that attacking cops, and attempting to kill them, succeeding to kill one... never lead to "I feared for my life, so I had to shoot" reaction by any cop. While cops shoot black people all the time, even when they run away it's still... "I feared for my life".

    It indeed no shots were fired when they were busy killing cops on the 6th.

    You're deliberately trolling about BLM, making a comparison that's just utterly rediculous.

    My point stands that what you say can only be done by raising taxes to get a higher level of security.

    It's the consequences of investing in communities while not defunding the police.

    You claimed there were no shots fired because the cops were now ordered to de-escalate. I disputed that.
    You sourced that federal troops standing down. That did not prove a thing about the cops being ordered to de-escalate.
    Cops simply did not shoot when fearing for their lives, cause the attackers were white.
    They shoot black people in such cases all the time.

    We're not talking about procedures. We're talking about if the cops are the same, and they are.
    The head of the DC police had decades of policing elsewhere.
    It's the same kind of cop, not suddenly one with a different cop culture.
     
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    Oh, do you mean like only a TINY TINY fraction of the population has died from COVID? So then I guess COVID doesn't matter then! :roflol:

    OR because the DC Police are HOPELESSLY incompetent! And you are unable to compare how they responded to a BLM riot, because they DIDN'T respond to a BLM riot!

    Cops also shoot white people. Black cops also shoot black people. Nothing to do with racism.

    You didn't specify the 6th. You said, "white person doesn't even get shot when they attack a cop with rubber bullets or real bullets when they are busy killing cops." :roflol:

    Nope, I'm talking about how you are defending the BLM riots!

    Nope, funding can be taken from other areas, not just the police. Also, spending can be increased without increasing taxes.

    This has nothing to do with ORDERS! It's simple - if you decide to not use National Guard, then that is de-escalating. Why else would National Guard not be required? During the BLM riots, National Guard was all over the country, and this meant that the response was more aggressive. If National Guard was in DC on the 6th, they would have DESTROYED the pieces of human waste within minutes before it became out of control.

    The DC Police were not involved in the BLM riots in the summer. So you have NOTHING to compare them to!
     
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    Yes and there is no such thing as verbally PUSHING back on people, so then I guess Maxine Waters meant PHYSICALLY "push!" And I guess that you don't like it when women talk about FIGHTING for their rights! It must be PHYSICAL fighting, right? :roflol:

    No, he did not specifically express love for the rioters.

    Nope, he condemned them! Are you saying that Trump didn't condemn them?

    Biden expressed his love to the BLM movement, just like Trump expressed his love to his movement. A minority of the BLM movement is violent, just like a minority of Trump's movement is violent. Simple!

    How is that claiming to not know who the proud boys were?

    True, but he obviously didn't support what they did otherwise he wouldn't have condemned them!

    Strange, because earlier when I asked if the far right AND the far left are bad, you said "nope!"

    And yet again, you haven't acknowledged that LIVELIHOODS were destroyed! You're downplaying the BLM riots. You have shown your true colours!

    And yet again, you haven't acknowledged that there was murder during the BLM riots! You're totally clueless! :roflol:
     
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    Fear of what?
     
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    Quotations from what?

    And was there no times when Obama deserved to be grilled?

    Why do you say that?

    Yeah, what does this have to do with his CANDIDACY?
     
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    Do you believe that this is how it worked?
     
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    And this means that they are not in a position to condemn violence which is being done in the name of the movement which they founded?
     
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    You're just derailing around now when I pointed out that your argument that the city got burned down in BLM protests, is simply far more fake than true.

    You go prove DC cops are hopelessly incompetent because they are so ill trained that they do not know how to shoot, when fearing for their lives because fascists are busy killing them.
    So far, you just cooked up a stupid conspiracy theory of why cops don't shoot white people.

    They disproportionally shoot unarmed black people far more often. That's not a fluke, that's clearly part of their racist behavior.

    It's the subject. And no shots were fired when cops were fearing for their lives / when they got beaten up by the dozen an hour / when one got killed.

    I'm talking about you dragging in BLM riots as if looting and arson is on par with terrorizing politicians, attempt to uproot democracy, overturn presidential elections.
    The predominantly white fascist crowed is simply FAR worse.

    Your idea would mean that policing is going to a higher standard at the expense of non related other area's. That's just dumb.

    You're claim that DC cops were ordered to de-escelate remains a lie. You did not prove this.
    They just did not shoot white people when their lives were at risk, because they were white.

    cops are cops. I proven that.
     
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    My point is that there is no such thing as VERBALLY FIGHT LIKE HELL. Trump promoted the FIGHT LIKE HELL, to get that country back.
    Biden never made a speech in front of BLM to go LOOT LIKE HELL or anything even remotely.

    Not putting a dent that he did not exclude them.

    He also expressed his love to them, by not excluding them.

    Donald expressed his love to them when they were just finishing off terrorizing the politicians.
    Biden never did anything remotely like that.

    He said so. To than told them to stand down and stand by.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/election-us-2020-54351472

    They stood by at th 6th, when he told them to now FIGHT LIKE HELL.
    And so they did.

    Not putting a dent that he did not exclude them.

    It's simply is a fact that the right is FAR WORSE than the left.
    You're leaving out that small detail by only quoting 1 word.
    Raping things out of context is your trademark.

    Because you're just trolling of topic. The right is simply FAR WORSE than the left. They are the biggest group of domestic terrorists, they are the ones who murders the most.

    This has nothing to do with Trump saying "there was violence on both sides".
    Where Donald compared murdering fascists at Charlottesville with looting by some people around BLM protests in Charlottesville.
    You're just pushing the goalpost now. In the end, we both know who murders the most, and it's fascist America.
     
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    It IS comparable! We have all seen the footage of BLM protests. In some of that footage we have seen similar situations in which crowds are trying to press police back and/or are throwing projectiles. This Capitol shooting would be like a cop point blank executing a BLM protester in one of those lines.

    We aren't dumb. We know that headlines would read UNARMED BLACK PROTESTER gunned down...for days. Pundits would use the occasion to bolster their discussions...for years.

    Corrupt media! Wake up America; abandon them!
     
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    I don't call it corruption when the media doesn't share your bias.

    OTOH I have always agreed that black people have little to complain about lack of police protection when they treat every arrest as an occasion for the entire neighborhood to gather close around and be on the verge of rioting. I called the police once and a crowd gathered when they came who quietly observed my explaining the situation. I had called the police and was in no way involved in any wrongdoing. Nonetheless, I was viewed as some sort of gangster for the next year. White people LIKE police and are on their side no matter what, could that be the crucial difference?
     
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    Legislative handcuffs and rioters.
     
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    Sight your target. Could have been Congressmen behind that door. Nothing stopping you from shooting once they breach the door.
     
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    How do you know that was consistent with the rules of engagement?
     
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    Agreed. But BLM and Antifa are useful to the media, because identity politics keep the masses divided. If the working class were ever united, they'd soon realize how much the elites are screwing them.

    The Capitol protest scared the elites, unlike the BLM and Antifa ones. When working class businesses and homes burn down, the elites don't care, and thus, the media downplays the violence. But when a few windows get broken at the Capitol building, that's a direct attack on the elite ruling class. The corporate media can't have that. Imagine what their response would be if the building was burned down.
     
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    is this still a discussion, there is video of them breaking the glass out of the barricaded door, seeing the guns and still trying to climb through to get to the people on the other side - who would not call this a justified shoot at this point?
     

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