United States Government Takes Down 3D Gun Blueprints

lol the government might be a bit spooked here.

It's always cute when anyone thinks they can delete information off the internet. The torrent is up on pirate bay now. And thousands of people are downloading it now for no other reason than to stick it to the man.

This is one issue the ACLU and the NRA can both get behind. ACLU is pissed because censoring the internet is a big no no. NRA is pissed because taking away guns is a big no no.

 

Expect the gov't to ban any sturdy plastics that would allow someone to fire more than a handful of shots without the gun breaking. The NRA will support it because they don't want their gun manufacturing sponsors to lose profits, and also expect corporations across the board to support it because they don't want their general use products being made cheaper at home -- making them lose money also.

Corporations will lobby the government to limit the integrity of available plastics for 3D printing so that people can only make useless, breakable, crap at home.

 

i dl'd the ar lower and the liberator allready just in case this very thing happend.

 

I do not know who they can ban it, but it is worrisome that these are unable to be tracked

 

It will be interesting to see how the NRA respons to this particular case.... much of their money comes from gun manufacturing, and gun manufacturers certainly would not want to have to compete with homemade guns. That said, at this point making a 3d printed gun like this is still horribly expensive and impractical vs buying a manufactured gun, so there is no risk to them at this point. I expect that the NRA and manufacturers will be working more in the background to try and slow or stop it from becoming economically feasible to make a homemade gun in the future, while publicly supporting 3d gun printing.

 

You liberals really don't understand gun owners if you think homemade plastic guns are going to compete with gun manufacturers


Guns are legal now, plastic guns are for when they arnt.

Printing out a plastic gun instead of buying a pistol is like making toilet wine when you can go to the store and buy beer.

I honestly think the gun haters have never shot one and simply have a phobia

 

You're probably right for most gun owners, but there's likely a niche market for unregistered guns that can't be easily tracked or regulated. So if your argument is that people who can currently legally and easily buy a gun for lawful purposes will likely continue to do so regardless, this is true. But I think the debate is more about restricting the economic and logistical feasibility for those who can't do so lawfully. So this debate about 3d printed guns really is just about unlawful purposes and acquisition of firearms, or just doing so to make a political point.

 

...and can be found mostly in fiction novels.

 

Well if that's the case and everyone just wants everything to be regulated and traceable, then why is there even a gun rights debate? Is the gun rights debate just a fictitious campaign masquerading as a grassroots effort with the NRA at the helm?

 

It surprises me to see conservatives downplay the significance and potential for 3d printing. Right now, it really is just an interesting curiosity, but it probably won't be too far down the road before metal detectors become obsolete. Maybe they'll continue to help protecting from the solid metal AK 47 and other such fun toys the gun lovers like to play with, but lawful and responsible gun owners are hardly the type anyone need be worried about. I wonder if the mindset will change if someone ends up getting shot in a courtroom because the plastic gun crafted in a buddy's garage didn't set off security's detectors. It's all just speculation, but I think it's worth examining what kind of potential this may have in the future and what kind of response it needs, if any.

 

Too bad for the gun grabbers that the blueprints are only for the design of one particular gun.

Anyone with a decent CAD program can design a gun and the 3D printer can produce it.

 

Liberals could try to find out exactly who supports gun ownership and put them into concentration camps till they get their minds right.

I'm sure some in the Obama White House and the lib news media are already dreaming of such a solution.

 

This is just the beginning of 3d Printing.

In 10 years printers will be really cheap, and the technology will be able to produce firearms that are much more effective.

People mocking this little plastic gun aren't looking far enough down the road.

Stupid gun clingers are going to ruin 3d printing.

 

You mean thumb-sucking gun grabbers will ban the technology.

 

This is simply a new chapter to an old story. There are already ways to craft firearms (which are more dependable and rugged) out of metal and tools... inexpensively. I wouldn't be surprised if these designs start making more of a presence online, if the 3-D files and plastics become hard to come by.

 

Does Hussein Obama think he can stuff the genie of technology back in the bottle?

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Eliminating public access to high-strength plastics only acts to make US industry less competitive.

That, of course, doesn't bother Hussein Obama a bit.

 

I honestly think you should stop assuming all liberals are gun haters who have never shot a gun. I like guns just fine and I'm a fair shot for someone who rarely gets to practice.

Anyway, I hate to see the limits that will be put on this tech thanks to paranoia over home weapon manufacture. There is no point in trying to restrict it because as the technology gets cheaper and more widespread people are going to be inventive. Surely they won't try to regulate or ban 3D printers to the point that this never happens. The cat is out of the bag, it's too late, nothing they can do will be enough, and I just hope they won't cripple what might one day be extremely beneficial progress.

And when 3D printers for public use exist at the nano and biological level, they're really going to have nightmares, aren't they?

To be honest, at that point I'll start having nightmares, too, though. Scary thought.

 

The Obama admin in action.

 

Tracked for what reason?

 

It's felony to remove serial numbers. Everything bought new IS traceable.

Are you anticipating a crime spree or a for hire hit man career?

 

But, those very same criminals can already get guns easily enough. So it would seem any form of "registration", background checks or the like do nothing to prevent it. Oh hey, here's a novel idea, how about the police go take care of rounding up the thugs....

Mass liberal hysteria over nothing. Anyone (without a felony offense or deemed mentally ill) can legally manufacture their own firearms as per GCA of 1968. If that's the case, criminals can do it too and they won't give a hoot about felony offenses or the like. Heck, zip guns have been made for years by thugs and hoodlums.

This is just big government overstepping its bounds big time. I like the whole part "we're gonna prevent distribution of the plans until we can figure out if it is legal or not"...um, yeahhhhhh. BS. They'll just sit on that one until they scramble to come up with some half-cocked legislation to ban it.

Might as well just say "you're guilty of something and we're going to shut you down until we can figure out what you're guilty of (or create something out of thin air that you're guilty of)".

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Haven't googled it have you? There are plenty of "DIY" gun making sites out there.

 

You're underestimating just how easy these 3D guns are to make.

Yes you have to make an initial 8000 dollar investment for a 3D printer. But hell you can spend 8000 dollars on a single gun (though admittedly you'd have to really try hard to spend that kind of cash)

But after the initial investment each gun will cost about 3 dollars worth of plastic powder. It's perfect for organized crime because you can arm whoever you want extremely cheaply for an in and out job. And the gun would be completely untraceable. No serial numbers. No way of knowing which gun fired which bullet. It wouldn't even be detectable in a metal detector.

And it's way better quality then any bull(*)(*)(*)(*) garage zip gun that's just as likely to explode in your face.

It's really easy to see why a crimelord would be interested in this sort of tech.

 

I guess that means the lib gun grabbers are screwed, huh?

 

Well plastic guns will still be illegal. It'll just be much harder to enforce now.

 

Which law?

Metal lathes and mills are not against the law so having a machine that works in plastic is not so revolutionary.

Or maybe it is if the problem is modern people who understand computers but have no ability to work with their hands.