Up to 400K Children Born To Illegal Immigrants in U.S. Annually, One In 10 Births

Over a lot of years, I've noticed that many hot button issues on the right tend to overlook the long-term consequences if those issues are decided in their favor .. like the current nonsense over birthright citizenship. First, the only way to be rid of it is to eliminate part of the 14th Amendment which is rather ironic given that "..the Republican Party, so proud of its connection to Lincoln, the Great Emancipator, actually celebrates the 14th Amendment on its own website — noting the historic day, Jan. 13, 1866, that it passed Congress “with unanimous Republican support and against intense Democrat opposition.” But let's say that Republicans eliminate that section from their website and disavow any connection to Lincoln. What then? Well, seems like the party of small government just created a whole lot more need for a big-brother, intrusive government looking over the shoulders of every woman giving birth to insure that the new arrival comes complete with its own passport (or uses mom's until it can have its own):

 

They should develop a backbone and fix their own country. We don't need a bunch of cowards here.

 

Republicans? You mean every member of congress and the senate. It was nearly unanimous. And democrats were beating the war drum before Bush was even in office. Shall I link the video of democrats and WMDs? You want to see that again or would you prefer to rewrite history?

And if democrats weren't blinded by votes we would've eliminated the anchor baby law by now, had laws set up everywhere so cops could easily identify and arrest illegals wherever they saw fit and been charging
Mexico for every one of their citizens they allow across our border.

We went to space in the 60s. Does anyone with a brain think we can't stop people from crossing our southern border?

It's all a sick joke and sadly those in charge will never feel the brunt of their depravity throwing this country down the drain.

Food won't be the problem. WATER will be the first thing to go. Look at CA.

 

If you absolutely, totally spend many billions - every year - to positively lock down the southern border, you've solved about half of the problem. But, you knew that, didn't you?

 

America was great while it lasted. It is all downhill from here. We all feel it.

 

Shutting down the border is only part of it. Some of it would be recovered instantly by reducing our foreign aid to countries that are purposely sending their people our way. So it's not billions.

Second, it costs little to deny services to illegals. No education. No medical. Nothing. Make it more difficult to live here than at home and people will have no choice. You don't fly the parents of illegal children up to the US. You fly the kids kids down at the expense of whatever country they're coming from.

We have loads of Military that would better be served Protecting us then say, S Korea. No extra cost there. We'd Be saving money.

Regardless even if we break even because it already costs billions taking care of them, it's Zero sum. And then, the social ramifications are still in our favor.

 

I don't see it that way. America is still great because there are still ots of people who want to come here. What you have to worry about is when lots of Americans whose families have been here for generations dcided to move outside the country permanently.

 

If you really wan to solve illegal immigration, then you will have to help economic opportunity to exist I there home countries through trade and other economic incentives.

Foreign aid is one example for that economic incentive. We provide little foreign aid to Mexico other than fighting the drug cartels. Drugs come into thise country not because the country is pushing it, but because there is demand here, notiabley in both urban AND rral areas. But our :War on Drugs: has been an absolute failure for over three decades and "Just say no" is not enough anymore.

Our border is controlled, not open or closed. Closing down the border would mean no economic trade nor immigrants. Basically, you want the United States to be more like North Korea than Ameirca. And that is only a problem for you and your beliefs.

Finally, you cannot ignore Supreme Court rulings. Phyler V Does will not allow you to deny services to illegals, notr would the court allow you to deny medical and living expenses.

 

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Thankfully, we live in a constitutional republic.

 

Actually, we live in a nation where the people are subjected to a silent invasion, perpetrated and perpetuated by both parties, against the people's wills and without their consent.
Their money is given away to people who haven't earned it and who shouldn't be here.

Isn't preserving a nation's sovereignty one of the very first duties of the Constitution? We don't live in a constitutional republic. We live in a corrupt oligarchy ruled by money and crooked, cynical politicians.

 

WKA did not settle children born to illegals, it settled children born to those parents here domiciled and not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under a foreign govt. The "policy" has changed under administrations, the Obama admin has changed it 3 times just since taking office. Now, what in WKA makes you believe that granting birth citizenship to children born to illegals?

 

George Bush's grandfather was an illegal? LMFAO You never cease to amaze with stupidity.

 

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1) I agree with the implicit, if not omnipresent fact, that both parties have been bought out by the corporations. To that extent, we now have an amoral, profit driven entity that is working on controlling this nation and wealth, to their own benefit. However, I don't see how that applies to the immigration topic. Must I remind you, it is the corporations that are behind pushing Spanish/English on ads and products. They don't give a flying fern whether they are citizens or not, as long as they have money to spend. In fact, last I looked, they have profited by having illegal labor in the US.

2) You only speak for yourself, or your ideologically similar friends. "Their", within your context, means all the US taxpayers and you cannot speak for them. I for example, have no problem with spending my tax dollars on what I believe to be, politically and economically oppressed people. Contrast that with the multi-trillions we spend on war, which I heavily object to. I'm a humanist.

3) While it is not spelled out in so many words, yes. But I fail to see the link between that and cutting off all humanitarian services as the other poster suggested. The constitution mandates that we provide such things as well as "due process".

4) I'm not sure you understand the concept of a Constitutional Republic. The Madison Project, should provide a good explanation.

5) 100% in agreement.

 

WKA doesn't say no to that, in fact it discusses it and points out that the US does recognize jus sanguinas.

 

Those states were under Spanish control and later became Mexican territories, for a very short period.

 

Jesus Christ, Plyler v Doe has no bearing on services to illegals, it merely allows children here illegally to attend k-12 school, nothing more.

 

Actually it did. His parents were inadmissible aliens under the law despite the fact he was born on US soil. That case settled the citizenship status of children born in the united States regardless of what their parent;s legal status may or may not be.

the only way to change the citizenship status would be to pass a Constitutional Amendment.

 

YOu obviously had not read the case, have you.

The entire case was based on a Texas law that did not allow children with no immigration status to be denied basic education within the state. The Supreme Court ruled that law Uncontstitiuonal and has since been reaffirmed several times in a few other cases. This is why no school system, private, public or home shool, can check the immigration status of its students. It can however, check the residency status of where they live, financial status. But not immigration, religious, race, ethnicity, etc.

 

Spanish and Mexican culture are very similar. The real difference is that the Mexican culture incorporated native American traditions into its culture as well. That is where Dia Del Muerto came into existeance, with the blessings of he Catholic church of course.

 

Ya, all those were problems but Righties loved to ignore all that and made "Stop Obama" their ONLY concern....they could've been DOING something besides making more laws against abortion...they could've started a program to give these immigrants free BC and easier access to clinics instead of trying hard to FORCE WOMEN TO GIVE BIRTH over and over and over and over again.....but OBVIOUSLY Righties WANT more illegals so they can whine and !itch some more....

 

Obviously you don't understand, but that's to be expected. No, Pred, when about half of the illegals in this country came here legally, and then stayed, a total lockdown of the Southern border does very little to solve the problem.

Well, adult illegals are shut out of many benefits already, so that's a given. However, when you shut out the kids who were born in another country from basic education then you've created an even larger underclass, and that becomes very expensive in the long run. Again, don't know it you can grasp that concept. Then again, there are probably millions of kids who were born here and ARE citizens because their parents came here illegally.

You want a military occupation of the United States? Isn't that what we fought a war over to get rid of?

 

None of that would be a problem if they weren't here, would it? And why does everything have to be "free?" How about free sterilizations, would that make you happy? With that you have your "free" and it's the abortion that never stops. You should love that idea.

 

A country that is 18 trillion in debt should not be spending money trying to build up economies elsewhere... Just saying...

 

Yes lets pretend everyone was accepted at places like Ellis Island and lets pretend deportation is a new concept.

A simple break down here

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo...ation_and_naturalization_in_the_United_States

 

what we need to worry more about is stopping foreign outsourcing, how many jobs do we outsource a year

importing new consumers is not as big a issue as outsourcing jobs and importing foreign goods