update on world temperatures

it has not been getting cooler since 1998, and the data reinforces what is already well known ... that the long term trend is definitely that the planet is getting warmer.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17432194

 

This seems to be true at this epoch. The situation will most likely change in the distant future, many times.
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in the far (to us) distant future.

 

Got a lot of living to do through high uncomfortable temperatures before that happens

 

Ah yes. The CRU. Prime perpetrators of cooked data.

You don't get it.

Nobody believes anything these guys say. If they said: "Good morning" people would think its nighttime.

There was no housecleaning after ClimateGate 1.0 and 2.0, just a Warmer whitewash.

 

How realists view global temperatures.

 

no evidence to support the data was cooked.

only the ignorant think so.

you should point to some real frauds in the debate,

the denialists are a mine of "cooked" lies.

 

You misspelled "luddite".

 

The true believers do not seem to be able to address this little fact that we have been in an ice age for 2.5 million years and we are currently in a mild inter-glacial period. Best bet for us is to warm the planet up so we will not have another glaciation period. Hard to grow crops on ice.

 

What do glacial periods have to do with decadal variations in climate caused by anthropogenic emissions?

You really don't understand this subject at all, do you.

 

Yes, as long as I am not of your religion, I am an heretic. Got it.

The temperatures we are experiencing are well within normal temperature ranges experience historically. It has been warmer before. Your theories have problems but you are not wiling to accept anything but the true belief.

Is it getting warmer? Yes. So what. The only constant in climate is change.

 

They were mostly exonerated with only a mild slap on the wrist - meanwhile people behind such pillars of truthfulness e.g. the "Oregon Petition" which is based on a known and well acknowledged misdirection/fraud are lauded by the denialist community

You really really really do not want to get me started on showing the fraud in the anti-AGW camp

 

And once again I will ask the question that is evaded time and again

What is driving this change

Climate, like your underpants, does not change by itself

 

The data is cooked. Warmists have mentality of an infant. When cooks bring a steak to a table in a restaurant an infant sees no evidence that it was cooked. The data comes from cooks brought in by cooks and anyone who is adult and has ever seen the kitchen knows the data is cooked. But the infantile minds stubbornly believe that it is somehow in some unknow way is not cooked or can be not cooked.

 

When you'd ever read posts you quote and reply to? You quoted" The temperatures we are experiencing are well within normal temperature ranges experience historically."

Clearly there has been no change.

 

http://www.chron.com/opinion/outloo...-ignore-scientific-methods-1710002.php#page-1

A fad of AGW has arisen the last 20 years, not based on science, but forced consensus. All of the theoretical warming from the AGW community is unproven so the name for it had to change and the methods of attacking unbelievers had to change.

You ask the same questions over and over again because you cannot accept what you are hearing.

 

A debate about global warming is far more complicated than simply reviewing the numbers. I am reasonably convinced that global warming is very real, however, I could care less about it. I don't want the USA to cede industrial capability for the sake of something 10-1,000 years in the future. Interview 100 people that diagnosed with cancer. Some will ride roller coasters and skydive until they die, some will START a life of conservation. I have been a habitual fiscal and energy conservationist since birth. I don't see any reward for this and I don't expect one.

 

While the surface reconstructions are useful for the distant past they are inferior to the modern satellite record. Sorry warmongers the RSS and UAH both have 1998 warmer than 2010.

 

So, I gather you are now including climatologists in your "realist" group?

 

Good - you have gotten that far in that you now acknowledge that change has a reason

Now prove either that any one of those things is driving the current change OR that the scientists have not investigated those drivers and already ruled them out as responsible for the current change - and good luck with that last one because a simple search with google scholar on "Milankovitch climate change" gives 12,000 results
http://scholar.google.com.au/schola...a=X&ei=eOJqT6PMGIOwiQe03uCPBg&ved=0CBsQgQMwAA

 

why not?

here's another one:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/globalwarmingswindle/

 

No - as long as you write crap - you look like a dill.

No - the temperatures we are experiencing are well beyond normal temperature ranges experienced historically during human civilisation.

Do you actually understand the problem here? It is the impact of climate on human infrastucture. Do you know what that means?

Not while humans have lived in permanent settlements with permanent infrastructure it hasn't.

What are they?

And a century or so of scientific research and empirical data. I can live with that.

What is causing the change?

Fairies?
Magic?

You say "my" theories have problems (I think you meant the accepted theory of virtually the entire scientific community)

What is YOUR theory?!?!?
Why is it getting warmer?

Saying - "The only constant in climate is change" is not a theory. It is simply the demented rant of a luddite.

Have you got a theory? Or is it all just supernatural for you?

 

Svante Arrhenius, Charles Keeling and Roger Revelle would probably disagree with you there. As would all of the blokes that formed the IPCC almost 30 years ago.


Why do you make crap like this up? Who do you think you are impressing?

 

really?

to read more:

http://www.aip.org/history/climate/summary.htm

 

Temperatures were higher during the beginning of the Holocene as show by grasslands growing in Iceland and forests growing on the now boggy Scottish islands (too cold you know).

So to ignore the facts is to keep your head in the sand.

Warming? Gonna happen. Cooling? Gonna happen. Warming is much better since it will make more arable land available.

Oh, and I love you proving me right about being a heretic because I do not believe your religion.