And this is yet another one. The west is actually not having as big of a drought as people tend to believe. The actual problem is that the population exceeds what the environment can support. Lake Mead was constantly full into the 1980s. And at that time, Las Vegas had a population of around 500,000. Today, the population is close to 3 million people. And everywhere along the Colorado River that takes water from it is in a similar condition. Rising populations are pumping the rivers, lakes, and aquifers dry. That is not the same thing as a drought. In fact, it is a cycle a lot of us are familiar with. I lived a stone throw away from Lake Oroville for many years, and saw this every year. In the Spring we would have floods of reporters arriving to show the lake absolutely full. Just a few years ago that even made headline news as the Governor ordered it to overtop and caused billions of dollars in damage and caused hundreds of thousands downstream to evacuate. But at this time of year, they will come back to show the lake is gone. Something which happens every year, as drinking water and power are lesser uses of the dam, the largest is to control flooding. So all year it is allowed to release the water captured, holding the last bit for this time when it is almost all allowed out to support the salmon spawning. And by October, it will be at the original river level. Which is exactly what they want, as the runoffs from the Sierra's into the lake come spring are massive. And all of the dams set up like that from Folsom to Shasta and others do the exact same thing. They were built primarily to control the massive floods from the mountains, but have secondary uses for holding drinking water, recreation, power production, etc. And each of those dams is damned near at the original river level every single year when winter starts. And if it is not, they rapidly drain it during the Winter so they have the room to catch the runoffs come Spring. 2016 was a drought year, and 2017 was also as early rains caused a lot of the snowpack to melt early. Yet, in just a few months even with all the water used for power and drinking, Oroville Dam still overtopped. And most of that water goes to Sacramento, and eventually Central and Southern California. And the demand for water in cities like LA have pumped aquifers so low that trees are dying. Not from lack of rain or heat, but because humans have taken the water from deep underground that they had evolved to use. None of this is "global warming" or "climate change". This is damage humans are causing to the environment directly because the environment they are in simply can not support so many people.
But now we have insanely growing population numbers. To give an idea, in 1880 there was plenty of water everywhere. The population of the planet was around 1.5 million. Today, we are starting to have "global droughts", but the rainfall has actually not changed. We do however have close to 8 billion people. It is like a bunch of rats in a fixed area with only a select amount of food. Like rats, humans are so high in numbers we are seeing effects on the environment from that alone.
That sure sounds like it was caused by dams. LOL You can discount anything you like, but there IS a drought in Europe, and parts of US. Lets hope they get some rain soon. The picture which upset you IS stock photo and is labeled as such. In the meanwhile, what happened to price of oil? Did Brandon do this? Did he press the wrong button, - down, instead of up? As for gas, we're seeing well under $3.00 already.
It is not "discounting", I am stating a fact. That is a flood control dam, not a dam for holding water constantly. And no, there is no "drought". as I just explained, the problem is not rainfall, but humans taking water in excess of what the environment can support. Hell, I see that all over the place. I can see rivers that are at their traditional banks well into Summer all over California. The Feather, the Sacramento, the American, over and over and over again. But once that same river hits the "settled zone" where humans start to take the water out for their own uses, they rapidly shrink to almost nothing. That is not drought, that absolutely a 100% man made disaster in the works. And has not a damned thing to do with the "environment". Hell, why do you think Florida has a problem with collapsing sinkholes and brackish water moving farther upstream? Not lack of rain, but humans taking more water out that can be supported.
It's clearly labeled as a stock photo, so why are you so upset? There is drought in Europe and parts of US. Humans take water, that is nothing new. Texas has water regulation already.
Yes but water management has not kept pace with population growth. California, the “progressive utopia”, is a prime example of both “dumbass” water, forest, and energy management
Water management includes building reservoirs to collect water for future use during periodic low precipitation periods and power generation. The fact that the rivers are low indicates poor planning based on increasing consumption information.
All those who understand how water usage increases with increasing population say so. Here in California our mental giants in Sacramento haven’t yet figured this basic requirement out. That’s why we can’t water our lawns or use air conditioning on very hot days.
Because it is intended to make people believe it shows a reservoir that is dry. That is not a reservoir. Anybody that knows anything about dams would know that. It is purely shown to create an emotional response not based on facts. That to me is basically lying. And no, there is no "drought". The actual rainfall has not changed significantly in well over 200 years. What we have is a demand far in excess of the supply. That is not a drought.
This is because they can not think ahead. When I grew up in LA, the population was around 2.5 million. When I finally threw in the towel and left LA, the population was over 3.5 million. Today, the population is over 3.8 million. It does not take a rocket scientist to realize that that is not sustainable. And even if rainfall had increased, there would no longer be enough water to go around. And it's even worse when one looks at the entire state. When I was born, it was just over 18 million for the entire state of California. When I left LA it was 35 million. When I returned and moved to Northern California it was 38 million. When I finally threw in the towel a second time and left the state for good it was 40 million. There is simply a finite supply of water. And it is not enough to serve both the environment and 40 million people. Now if say COVID had done like the Black Death and wiped out half of the population, then suddenly nobody would be saying a thing about "drought". As once again there would be more than enough water to go around. The drought is a fantasy, based not on water level but water demand.
So.......it's lying even though it clearly says its a stock photo and does NOT say its a reservoir......? It created an emotional response.......IN YOU. Yes, there IS a drought in Europe, I have no clue why you are so hell bent in denying it. There is also a drought in Texas, but I am sure you'll deny that too. You want to believe things which are not there, and deny things which are. Wetter weather is coming this weekend. But it won’t be enough to end Texas’ drought. https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/19/texas-drought-rain-august/ Nearly the entire state is in a prolonged drought, with an estimated 26 million Texans living in worsening conditions. Texas had its fifth-driest July on record this year. The state’s reservoirs are 20% below average levels. Farmers are struggling to grow crops without rainfall. More than 400 cities and other public water systems — from Aransas Pass to Zapata County — have put some sort of water restrictions in place to avoid shortages, according to state data. 2022 European drought In summer 2022, parts of Europe have experienced drought conditions exacerbated by heat waves. On 9 August, a senior European Commission researcher said it seems to be Europe's worst year in 500 years. A report from the Global Drought Observatory has confirmed this This is not about LA, or California, although their water supply issues are well documented. Much of the area is practically desert where drought is a normal condition.
Yes, California has ~ 40 M people but has the infrastructure for ~ 20 M. It's a beautiful state but feels like a third world country more every day.
Fine, then show me a study going back 100 years or more that shows a drastic reduction in the amount of rain. Trust me, I have been doing this for a long time now. In fact, are you aware that California on average gets more rain than it did 150 years ago? It is getting more rain than it was when it was made a state, so why is there a drought now? Simple, too many people for the land to support. I have absolutely no clue why you are trying to deny that this has nothing to do with rain, but overpopulation. And one of the places screaming the most is California. Yet, you can look at a chart of actual rainfall numbers going back well over a century. And there are no major differences between then and now. https://ggweather.com/sf/monthly.html However, what the state does have is a hell of a lot more people than ever before. Why you are denying that it is not lack of rain but overpopulation, I have absolutely no idea.
Oh, and in case any are too lazy to look it up, here is a starting point. Rainfall for Germany. https://weather.plus/weather-statistics-germany-year.php Interesting, nothing there suggesting record draughts. In fact, the last 20 years have been exceptionally wet according to that data. And is currently in an upward trend. That pretty much proves it is not lack of rain, but something else causing this problem. Also, "annual sunshine duration" is going down also. Which matches the data for more rain. But please, I welcome any to look through the actual data. Rainfall amounts have not significantly changed in 150 years or more. And notice, most say "drought conditions". That is not the same as "drought". One is the lack of rainfall, the other is a lack of water. One is the weather, the other is lack of resources because humans are putting too large of a demand on what the environment can provide. But it has not a damned thing to do with "Global Warming", or anything else.
100 Years? There is drought in Europe THIS year, and for whatever you won't believe it. It does not mean there will be drought next year. or in the next 10 years. Are you under the impressions that droughts are permanent? They are not, unless we're talking about deserts, where its expected to be permanent. What does California go to do with it? Dryness is normal in CA, because much of CA is desert. Most of their water comes from elsewhere. So, Europe went from normal population to overpopulation in one year, and they drank the rivers dry. All righty then. I dont give a rats ass about CA. I have repeated to no end I am talking about Europe and places like Texas in US. Drought = period of abnormally low rainfall, leading to a shortage of water. Drought can be a period of 15 days to months to years. That is what Europe and parts of US (like Texas are dealing with) You have no idea because you don't comprehend what you read.
Actually, yes and no. What it has is a very complex water cycle, normally based on roughly 7 year monsoons. And most of the water traditionally was stored in the high mountains as snowpack, or in underground aquifers. One of the reasons that farmers loved it was that 160 years ago they could dig a 10 meter hole almost anywhere and hit the water table. Many of the first farming areas the problem was actually trying to channel that low water table where it caused a lot of flooding. But today, wells are running dry and trees are dying all over the state. Not because of not enough rainfall, but people have pumped so much water out of the land that the water table is greatly lowered. I knew people that had to have their well redrilled because it was no longer deep enough. And it sure as hell was not rainfall, there is still a hell of a lot of rain in California. But the megacities are demanding more and more water each year, and it has to come from somewhere. Here, let me make it simple for you. California is a giant rat farm. And the farmer provides them with 2 gallons of water a day. Now that is actually enough water for around 40 rats. But suddenly, the farmer throws in an additional 60 rats. That is now 100 rats, but still with the original 2 gallons of water. It is not lack of water source, it is too many trying to use the limited amount of water. Replace 2 gallons of water with annual rainfall and the rats with humans, and maybe bow you see what the real problem is. Rainfall has not decreased, the number of rats (err, humans) has drastically increased.
And this means what, exactly? Tell you what, when you want to actually discuss the issues and science, we can do that. If you want to go into hysterics and wave your arms, feel free to do that. But I have absolutely no interest in such. Have a nice day. Oh, and I do comprehend what I read. Notice I went into a lot of science there. Describing historical records, and discussing the actual problem itself. You want to throw a temper tantrum. That is not my problem, that is your problem.
And it is very obvious that there is nothing abnormal about the current status of the weather in Europe. And there is no causation of the current periods of low rainfall to global warming.
Global warming alarmists do not care about facts or evidence. Global warming alarmism is faith based. If you break it down they fundamentally want to minimize the impact of the human race on nature. That is why they do not support nuclear energy which is safe, emits no CO2, and produces an extremely small amount of radioactive waste which is easily isolated. They are basically Malthusians who want the number of people in the world to be minimized.
Oh, I see. You argue there is no drought because you fear it might support GW side. I told you I don't care what the cause it, be it "man made global warming" or just a freak year. As a matter of fact I think its a freak year even if "man made global warming" was true. Lets not fool ourselves, the European situation is nowhere near normal this year, but since it was normal last year, it can't be "man made global warming", which would happen over long periods of time
I argue that there is nothing unusual about droughts occurring in all parts of the world. Global warming in this, the tenth such warming period (followed by a cooling period), started in the 1880’s at rates the ssme as we see now. The globe has warmed ~ 1 degree Centigrade since 1880. The IPCC states that droughts and other natural events will not increase in frequency or intensity. Global warming at the consensus 0.03 degrees Centigrade per year does not result in catastrophic drought. The affected European countries have not acted proactively to provide water storage capacity to match the needs of their growing populations. The same situation is present her in the state of California. The politicians who have failed in their public responsibilities blame global warming as their excuse for inaction.
In fact, we know it is actually the reverse. Warmer temperatures cause more rainfall. It allows for greater evaporation and higher humidity. Colder weather actually lowers humidity and reduces rainfall. That is why hurricanes and other "Tropical Storms" happen in the summer, and not in the winter. I swear, so many people just do not "science" very well.
What is more disappointing and dangerous is that people don’t question obvious inconsistencies anymore. Life, thanks to the huge benefits of fossil fuels, has gotten too easy comparatively speaking.
