US Army School of the Americas Graduate Involved in Coup Attempt in Ecuador

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  1. Horhey

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    Article is in second post..

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE9hVCZvlfo"]SOA Graduate Implicated in Attempted Coup in Ecuador[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuWpgRQuXU4"]CIA behind failed Ecuador coup?[/ame]

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUBs483heIk&feature=player_embedded"]Populism Challenges US Domination[/ame]

    For declassified U.S. government documents explaining the role of Third World countries, see for example, N.S.C. [National Security Council Memorandum] 144/1, "United States Objectives and Courses of Action With Respect to Latin America," March 18, 1953, Foreign Relations of the United States, 1952-1954, Vol. IV ("The American Republics"), Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1983. The Memorandum begins (pp. 6-7, 9):

    Aiming to avoid this "drift in the area toward radical and nationalistic regimes" the Memorandum then lists the objectives and proposed courses of action for the United States:

    A later N.S.C. document, N.S.C. 5432/1 of 1954, repeats much of the same language. See N.S.C. 5432/1, "United States Objectives and Courses of Action With Respect To Latin America," September 3, 1954, Foreign Relations of the United States, 1952-1954, Vol. IV ("The American Republics"), Washington: U.S. Government Printing Office, 1983, pp. 81-86

    In a study by Robert McNamara's Defense Department, a Memorandum (Source: former United Nations Deputy Special Envoy to Haiti, Paul Farmer), entitled "Study of US Policy Toward Latin American Military Forces" (June 11, 1965) observes that:

    In a study by Robert McNamara's Defense Department, a Memorandum (Source: former United Nations Deputy Special Envoy to Haiti, Paul Farmer), entitled "Study of US Policy Toward Latin American Military Forces" (June 11, 1965) observes that:

    School of the Americas-trained Honduran Army Attorney Col. Herberth Inestroza justified the 2009 military coup in Honduras and stated in an interview with the Miami Herald:

     
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    SOA graduate lead the coup effort..

     
  3. Horhey

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2Yifzg2mBw"]Coup D'état in Ecuador — Breaking News[/ame]
     
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    Of course, I have to wonder what a bunch of memos from the 1950's and 1960's have to do with a coup in 2009. Odds are none of the coup members were even born when the older ones were written. And were either in diapers or not born yet when the newer ones were written.

    Of course, it was not reall a coup in the first place, but a Constitutional Crisis. The Military did not act to seize power, they were ordered to depose the president by both the Honduran Supreme Court and the National Assembly.

    In an attempt to over-ride term limits, President Zelaya tried to have a seperate ballot box installed, which would overturn the Constitution. This was ruled unconstitutional in every court it was presented to, but he declared it would happen anyways.

    In fact, the Constitution specifically forbid the president from making changes to the Constitution, and only gave that power to the Legislature. He ignored not only the Constitution, but the other 2 branches of Government. And when he refused to back down and put the ballot boxes in place anyways, the Supreme Court took action. They held him in contempt, stripped him of office, and ordered the military to arrest him.

    So that is the truth. It was not a military takeover, but an attempt of the President to illegally overthrow the Constitution. The military did not take action on it's own, it was ordered to by the Supreme Court of Honduras.

    And BTW, I am a graduate of the "Combat Arms" segment of the School of the Americas. Am I a terrorist and coup plotter also?
     
  5. Horhey

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    Wrong again. You bought that line from the opposition. Why dont you ever do some researching instead parroting propaganda you've been fead all the time? Check the very first citation.

    http://www.politicalforum.com/terrorism/145199-let-record-show-washington-behind-honduras-coup.html

    And what Latin American military or police were you apart of? You dont know dick about the school.

    The Washington Post noted that:

    A Los Angeles Times Editorial observed:

    Washington's Santa Fe Report equated "liberation theology" with Marxist-Leninism for it's "preferential option for the poor." The document declared, under the title "Internal Subversion," that:

    An official set of School of the Americas talking points in 1999 stated that:

    Newsweek covered some of the training exercises at the US Army School of the Americas:

    That is precisely why the US terror war in Central America, motivated by the "sincere impulse" to bring democracy, was in large measure a war against the Church -- "Communists," in the technical sense, once the Bishops had adopted "the preferential option for the poor."

    Human Rights Watch reports:

     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_5B3jpRQBI"]Archbishop Romero Assassination[/ame]

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    In February 1980, the Archbishop of El Salvador, Oscar Romero, sent a letter to President Carter in which he wrote:

    Hardly news to Washington, needless to say. Archbishop Romero often spoke critically of the US, which supported the right-wing government of El Salvador and those of other Latin American countries in their so-called "dirty wars", organizing, training, arming, advising, and funding military, paramilitary, and and police forces.
     
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    Of course, the Carter adminstration ignored the Archbishop's plea and sent more military aid to it's death squad forces.

    Congressional Quarterly reports

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    A few weeks later, Archbishop Romero was assassinated while saying mass by U.S.-backed dead squad forces, and then a major war was carried out against the Liberation Theology Clergy within Catholic Church.

    The UN Truth Commission Report on El Salvador concluded that:

    Three of the assassins - including Major Roberto D'Aubuisson - studied at the notorious US Army School of the Americas, a US military college in Fort Benning, Georgia, which for decades taught counter-insurgency to more than 60,000 cadets from Latin American regimes. It was renamed in 2001 after a series of scandals, including the discovery there of stacks of "torture and execution" manuals.

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8Jdc4Wj5M8"]US Support for NeoNazi Death Squad Leader[/ame]

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    The Neo-Nazi - Major Roberto D'Aubuisson was "leader for-life" of the ARENA party, which governed El Salvador untill recently; members of the party, like Salvadoran president Alfredo Cristiani, had to take a blood oath of loyalty to him.

    In 1980, New York Magazine observed:

    The Major was Washington's dirty secret in El Salvador.

    In the 1984 article entitled "Behind the Death Squads: An Exclusive Report on the U.S. Role in El Salvador's Official Terror", award winning investigative journalist, Allan Nairn reported that:

    Two days after Romero's death, a National Security Council coordinating committee opined:

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN6LWdqcyuc&feature=player_embedded"]Massacre at Oscar Romero's funeral [/ame]

    Thousands did gather at the funeral. A banner was hung on the entrance of the cothedral indicating that the conservative bishops, the papal nuncio, and the US ambassador were not welcome. Death squads ultimately opened fire at those gathered on the steps of the cathedral, killing and wounding scores of people.

    BBC News reports

    The massacre was carried out by the US-backed National Police and National Guard.

    TO BE CONTINUED
     
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    The US Army School of the Americas has trained more military dictators than any other school in the world.
     
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    Excuse me, you are very wrong.

    School of the Americas was part of a large widely spread campus that in the 1980's was mostly conducted in Panama. To be specific, Forts Davis, Amador and Sherman is where most of the courses were taught.

    And it was not taught exclusively to members of foreign organizations. US military personnel attended the courses as well. Between October and November 1987, I attended the Jungle Operations Training Course, where I was awarded the Jungle Expert tab.

    And there is no doubt this was a "combat" course, where we were taught everything from setting ambushes, tracking, and both operating as and against irregular forces (guerrillas). And many of the courses taught were by foreign soldiers with experience in jungle operations in their own countries, as well as having them attending the course.

    And I find it interesting that I am probably the only person here that has attended the school, but you insist I do not know anything about it.

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  10. Horhey

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    You were not part of the Latin American military or police so it does not pertain to you. You were part of a different program. They were not training you to be part of a death squad. I just layed out a bunch of information and you ignored it. Im not finished yet either. I'll just start another thread on the school. Watch the video..

    Major Joeseph Blair is a former instructor at the School of the Americas where he served from 1986-89. He is a career political military officer who specialized in Latin America and has been awarded the Bronze Star and five Meritorious Medals. In 1993, he publicly criticized the school and called for its closure. Since then, he has been a vocal opponent of the School of the Americas and of U.S. foreign and military policy.

    Blair observes:

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5L1VdlktOw"]War on democracy - School of Americas[/ame]

    In a seperate interview, Major Joseph Blair stated that:

     
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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gscKnNAxBpE"]Bush's War Against Liberation Theology[/ame]

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    The Atlacatl Battalion: The "Yankees' Battalion”

    The Oxford Essential Dictionary of the U.S. Military states that:

    Human Rights Watch (formerly Americas Watch) observed that:

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    In November 1989, six Jesuit priests, their cook and her daughter, were murdered by the "Yankees Battalion."

    The Los Angeles Times noted that:

    The Los Angeles Times pointed out that:

     
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    Every American citizen ought to grab up their children, close their doors and take out their weapon, if it has not been taken away every time the good military get out there and start saying the cold war is over.
     
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    Additional info's: U.S. establishes a military academy in Nicaragua to train a National Guard as the country's army. Similar forces are trained in Haiti and the Dominican Republic."There is no room for any outside influence other than ours in this region. We could not tolerate such a thing without incurring grave risks.
     

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