US burns Afghan Qu'rans.

Thomas Asbridge The Crusades the war for the Holy land for starters,try reading it and then you will know something at present it is clear that you cannot even keep track of what has been said so why would I expect you to know any history of the actual events.You seem to think that when people are talking about the Holy land they are talking about Spain,buy an atlas.Please stop following me around the site writing complete rubbish,it just makes you look rather sad.

 

Paranoïd much?

So you googled a history book title... nice.
Now be a good little boy and go buy it on amazon and read it. Be sure to ask a grown up for explanation if you don't understand the big word...

 

I have no need to go buy it,I already own it and have read it as well. I do read many books and it is clear from your posts that you do not. You think that Spain is in the Holy land for god knows whatever reason. I really do not see any further reason to communicate with you,not as if you are even very challenging,so I will leave you to run around posting rubbish on your own. Thanks.

 

No it was to liberate the holy land for Christendom after the Islamic Imperialists had been conquering the Christian lands in the Middle East, North Africa, and even Europe itself for 5 (*)(*)(*)(*)ing centuries.

Are you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing insane? The lands were a part of Christendom until the Islamic Imperialists conquered it and then not until nearly 5 centuries of this Islamic Imperialist theft of Christian lands did Christendom finally respond with the first Crusade. But I guess in your (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up history books 630 AD comes after 1096 AD. lol

 

You are the one that is confused.

I never said that spain was in the holy land, that is your own deflection at work. I gave spain as an exemple of your muzzi friend going "thousands" (sic) of miles to wage a war of aggression, which BTW is what you are accusing the christian of doing. The same can be said of Sicilia and southern Italy, India and even Persia... And this before the first christian crusade...

You really suck at both history and debate, really...

 

It was an offensive war to steal land in the middle east by white Europeans. You can post here all day and night and it is not going to change that. Please carry on I have stated the actual historical facts,you can carry on with your fantasy version.

 

And now you've just exposed yourself for the troll that you are...

Goodbye silly british muslim troll, welcome to the scum bucket with the other fellow of that very select club.

 

AND TO ADD FUEL TO THE FIRE...

I believe we should be burning Quarans across the globe and start razing Mosques to show these foul Islamists that the world does not fear you, you will fear us.

I say we start burning all of Afghanistan soon. Glass the mother(*)(*)(*)(*)er with the cleansing fire of our nukes!

 

No but like North Africa and the Middle East Spain was Christian land conquered by the Islamic Imperialists, however, it would have to wait until the reconquista in the 15th century to finally end the Islamic Imperialist occupation of Christian land.

 

Um no buddy row it was the ISLAMIC IMPERIALISTS, who stole the Christian land during 5 centuries of military expansionism, the Crusades were a response to this in order to REGAIN the land for Christendom which the MUSLIMS stole! That is the historical fact and one which no amount of denial will change. Your assertions are only historical fact if 630 AD comes after 1096 AD but I wouldn't be surprised if that is the exact type of "history" which they are teaching in the pedophile worshiping madrassas these days.

 

Your grasp of history is not worth a (*)(*)(*)(*) and your hatred comes through in many of your posts. You have a real anger problem. The land did not belong to Christians,it belonged to the people who lived there and the people who lived there before the Muslims took it over were not white Europeans,so trying to claim that white Europeans were re conquering the land is a joke and a half. The people who lived there before Christ were also not Christians so the land does not belong to Christians. It belongs to the people who lived there and most of them converted to Islam,so it is their land.. It is easy enough to understand.

 

lol how do you define "white" exactly? The people of North Africa had the same racial characteristics of all the peoples of the Mediterranean including Italy, Spain, and Greece IE Caucasian. The people who lived there before the Muslims conquered them were CHRISTIANS! It was Christian land, not Muslim land.

These lands were not conquered by some Christian empire, the people themselves adopted Christianity to such a degree that it converted Rome itself, the exact inverse is true for dar al-Islam which came into being through Islamic Imperialist military expansionism, ethnic cleansing, cultural genocide, and actual genocide.

No they were forcefully converted to Islam or they were subjugated as Dhimmi half slaves that is if they were not outright slaughtered.

 

Well going on your own logic the land does not belong to the Christians at all it belongs to the Canaanites. You have shot yourself in the foot there. As I said history is not your strong point.

Very funny. The Roman empire? Eastern Roman Empire/Byzantines? You have not got a clue kid. I told you your grasp of history was (*)(*)(*)(*) poor.

 

That's not Good to burn Holy books.

 

No I am not going back to the neolithic era I'm going back to recent events surround the crusades namely the "stealing of Christian land" by brown Islamic Imperialists which prompted the defensive war known as the Crusades.

The empire had not yet split when Rome officially adopted Christianity as the state religion.

 

it's just a book for (*)(*)(*)(*)sake.

 

Why not go back to the 'neolithic' era? You're quite happy to delve back into the mists of time when it comes to supporting your own points...
Oh, and the Cannanites were Bronze age, not neolithic.

'Brown Islamic Imperialists'. Really underlines your bigotry once and for all.

 

??? Most Jews and arabs are white. And most of the jews in Israel are descended from jews who have lived in Israel for thousands of years and jews who came from Arab Nations.

 

Recent events? The crusades were like 900 years ago and I have already poured cold water on your silly claim that the land belongs to the Christians.It certainly does not belong to Christians and it certainly did not belong to white European Christians who were involved in the Crusades. Your whole argument has been proven to be garbage. As I have explain going on your own logic it was not Christian land,going on your logic it belongs to the Canaanites as they were the first recorded people there. That is the end of your argument but I am sure you will carry on even when proven wrong. You seem to be one of those that just carries on and on until the other person gets board with you and moves on after proving you wrong and then you think you have won.

 

Most of the Jews in Israel are descended from European Jews who had never even seen Palestine. We are also talking about the White European invasion of lands in the middle east,we are not talking about the Jews being white, I am pretty sure that the Jews were not white European Christians fighting for the Pope in the 11 century.

 

He has lost his argument and is now grasping at straws and trying to define a time frame for use of his own logic,if it falls out of his made up time frame he does not want anyone else to use his own logic as it proves him to be incorrect. It is rather funny.

 

what poo, zero historical knowledge...while some migration goes along with the spread of Islam it's very small, there was no mass ethnic cleansing of existing populations are essentially the same as before the spread of Islam. the Spanish are still Spanish, they were not supplanted by Arabic hordes...Berbers are still Berbers, Turks are still Turks despite their conversion to Islam...religious conversion in a region does not indicate a mass migration, it was the direct result of taxation, non Muslims were taxed so it was was wise to switch to the new religion, also learning Arabic was practical as it was the language of the new ruling elite. the people of the eastern Mediterranean region are the same now as they have been for several thousand years...

 

it wasn't christian land, there were a number of religions in the area co-existing, many Jews, Christians, Zoroastrianism and those who still followed the numerous gods of the previous roman empire...the only religious beliefs eliminated by Islam were the roman ones and Zoroastrianism, Jews and Christians were allowed to continue their practices...

 

Only if they accepted to live as second rate citizen or if they converted...

 

well that's really dumb, with your logic Britain and the USA should still be locked in battle as only 200yrs since the revolution, Britian stills owns N America?... I would say after 5 centuries it's pretty much settled who has title to the land...extending your logic the zionists have no claim to stolen land in the west bank after a measly few decades of occupation...extending your logic of time of possession 5 centuries of Muslim rule trumps a sporadic 2-3 centuries of Christianity

and the Islamic armies did not remove christian rule from the eastern Med they removed the Sassanid Empire (Zoroastrians) who had ended eastern roman rule in the region about hundred years previous...