US, Canada, Mexico agree to renegotiate NAFTA

Witness real leadership.

It took Trump only a few months to realize he was no longer a guy campaigning for the support of specific groups of people but instead the most iconic of world leaders.

Something that Obama never figured out even to his last day.

Trump is allowing for the opportunity for beneficial renegotiation but made it clear that the alternative is withdraw.

This is how a real leader acts.

This is how a real American President acts.

Trump recognizes that we're not in this alone but made sure to let the players know that the era of being cucked by shitty deals is over.

Of course Leftist media cant help but paint this in the negative (speaking of the Fake News Network's reporting) when this sort of amenable behavior is exactly what they wanted from Trump.

We're going to walk out of this with a better deal that improves our economy, improves our productivity, creates jobs, creates wealth, and puts America first for a change.

And of course all we're going to get from the Leftists is nay-saying and sky-is-falling rhetoric.

 

You forgot shutting down freedom of speech, rioting and looting....

 

NAFTA is what? 23 years old? Its time to renegotiate.

 

yeah real leadership

https://www.forbes.com/sites/timwor...e-entire-north-american-economy/#5481e37e3bc4

 

It's not quite entirely true that Nafta means wholly and unfettered free trade between the three countries. Yesterday's mutterings about Canadian softwood is proof enough of that. However, it is largely true that we're really pretty close to unfettered free trade across the three countries.

And my point is not to say that this must be so for all time--although I'd very much prefer it to be that way--it's that we cannot go and suddenly change this arrangement without throwing large parts of all three economies out of whack.

As an example, the major car companies now treat the three countries as one production area. Canadian or Mexican--or obviously US--plants might make one component for all three countries, or assemble one type of vehicle for all three.

Instead of the system of decades ago whereby there might even have been the same number of plants in the three countries but they each manufactured or assembled for the local market. It's possible to go back to those older arrangements. Would be a bad idea but it's possible. But it's not something that could be done immediately, nor even in just a couple of years.

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https://www.forbes.com/sites/timwor...e-entire-north-american-economy/#1f686c543bc4

 

Oh yes yes, well of course.

I think at this point rioting, looting, vandalism, assaults on persons and free speech, and the various manifestations of bigotry in general are pretty much assumed any time we mention "the Left".

 

I don't visit sites that run ad-block-blockers.

What is this you're linking?

 

I gather all three countries see areas where there could be room for improvement.

Trump says he wants to renegotiate. Trump supporters hear that he will screw concessions out of Canada and Mexico and give up nothing in return.

What will probably happen is that each country will obtain something that is important to its interests, and compromise on other things that are less important to its interests. So negotiation should end up being a win-win-win for all three.

It is not a zero-sum game where America can only win by making someone else lose.

 

NAFTA gutted manufacturing in this area. A kid that used to go to work on a line, now goes to work in a meth lab. I would say the original trade deal threw things out of whack. Oh but this one might cost the globalist some of their money. Cry me a river.

 

I am a little puzzled by Trump's complaints about the Canadian dairy industry and lumber industry.

 

I don't know anything about the dairy industry.

Lumber has been a point of dispute for decades. As I understand it, the two countries manage their resources in a different way. America says that amounts to a subsidy. I think that pretty much every time this has gone to a decision (WTO? NAFTA?) the ruling has favored Canada. So the latest countervailing duties are consistent with a long line of actions by America that seem to be aimed at obtaining concessions during a negotiated agreement. But you never know, perhaps the basis of this latest round is correct and America will prevail.

Edit - I should add that I expect that H Clinton would have done exactly the same thing (put countervailing duties on softwood lumber). This is a decades-old simmering dispute and it has been handled largely the same by both parties, from what I can see. The previous softwood lumber agreement expired recently and it was pretty much certain that any new administration, either R or D would put new countervailing duties in place.

 

He went from withdrawing from NAFTA to "renegotiating" NAFTA in less than 24 hours. That's some solid negotiating there.

 

It's an opinion piece about Trump saying that NAFTA will stay in place for now (after threatening to leave it less than 24 hours ago) and that is a good thing because leaving NAFTA would crash the North American economy.

 

The guy is an idiot, making money off of government, while in power, and waging wars.

I can't imagine Mexico or Canada supporting the USA anymore, if it weren't for their nuclear arsenal, which trump is willing to use against anyone.

Impeach Trump 2017.

 

Well what did I say in my OP?

Trump is acting Presidential.

He realizes that he's not just the representative of the people that voted for him and that the USA isn't the sole country in North America.

But he also made it clear that this negotiation is going to end with a new deal that benefits America and to make sure of that he's left the option of leaving NAFTA altogether on the table.

There really isn't much, if anything, to criticize here.

 

Hey man, great constructive posting.

 

Well, I can only say, I hope you're happy with what you got.

 

lmao, what a pathetic excuse.

let me help, trump isnt touching nafta, hows that leader for you

 

Excuse for what?

I cant view Forbes so I asked what the link was all about.

I think you jumped into attack mode too fast there pal.

 

On a related note, there really isn't much, if anything, to applaud here.

 

yeah right, nafta is still here despite what your messiah says

 

Yeah, the Cheeto Jebus did a 180* in 1 day.

 

leftys are just mad cause Trump is doing something Obama would never dream of doing.....

Trump is keeping his promises....

 

Trump is "keeping his promises" by starting to renegotiate NAFTA on his 100th day?

 

NAFTA is over 20 years old.

So much in the areas of manufacturing and economics has changed in all three countries that it makes no sense not to modernize, even Mexico and Canada agree.

The deal needs to be revisited and Trump is the man to do it in a way that will benefit America.