North Korea claimed that the US suspension of food aid would be a violation of the bilateral agreement entered by both countries in February. It accused the US of "overreacting" to its planned satellite launch in mid-April. It also warned that any attempt to intercept the satellite would be "an act of war". Who claims that Asians have no sense of humour? North Korea Accuses US Of Over-Reacting To Rocket Launch Plan http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/3222...clear-deal.htm N.Korea leader visits navy amid rocket launch tensions http://sg.news.yahoo.com/n-korea-lea...071323023.html Thread started at Forum 4 Politics on 04-06-2012 12:29 PM
Granny says, "Dat's right - dey's in cahoots together... Experts: NKorea missile carrier likely from China 19 Apr.`12 The enormous, 16-wheel truck that North Korea used to carry a missile during a recent parade likely came from China in a possible violation of U.N. sanctions meant to rein in Pyongyang's missile program, experts say.
Japan and South Korea need nuclear weapons loaded on IRBMs able to reach Beijing, Shanghai, and Guangzhou. That will keep the Chinese busy.
Grandpa says, "Dat's right - dey're like a cat and a mouse in an unholy marriage... Geopolitics makes strange bedfellows!"
That will keep the Americans busy too. Providing Japan with nuclear weapons and IRBMs is giving the Japanese another chance to attack Pearl Harbour and allowing them to settle the score by dropping Little Japanese Boy and Fat Japanese Man on America.
Is it our job though to tell another country what they should or should not do? What gives us the right to tell another Government how to run their country and what to use and not to use. What to build and not to build.
Did you see the launch by India yesterday of the long range ballistic missile they call the "China Killer?" Let me be candid. The Chinese Communist Party has lost control over the PLA. It's obvious that civilian Party technocrats are being ignored by the PLA. All of China's neighbors are working based on that understanding. Massive Chinese and Indian armies now face each other in the Himalayas. The contest between China and India will be the great geopolitical struggle of the first half of this century. China's problem is that it no longer produces men like Deng Xiaoping. It produces technocrats. This pattern of great leaders followed by pygmies is repeated throughout history. Btw, I am a Dengist.
Your abrupt switch from Japan to India is an admission that your proposal for global nuclear proliferation is a silly idea. I am not surprised that many people in the US Army and Congress have secretly regard the Chinese long range ballistic missiles as the "America Killers". Sinophobia may explain the US misadventures in the Philippines, Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan. Your dangerous thinking reflects your sinophobia. If the Chinese leadership has really lost control over the PLA, scores of nuclear missiles would have been finding their way to America at this moment, with at least one hitting you right on the head at your computer desk while you are reading my message. Do you think all of China's neighbours are as timid and sinophobic as America? At least one country -- North Korea -- is laughing at the US and China. North Korea has been leading China by the nose since the Korean War. Its relations with China is akin to a dog walking a man, not a man walking a dog. It shows no fear of nuclear attack from the US, China or any other country. If, as claimed by you, massive Chinese and Indian armies are facing each other in the Himalayas, they would have been frozen to death long ago. Hence, don't visit the Terracotta Army of Qin Shihuang in Xian when you visit China next time, but visit the 8th Wonder of the World in the Himalayas where miles and miles of massive frozen Chinese and Indian armies are facing and staring at each other like ice statues. Unfortunately for the US and the West, Pakistan is no North Korea. It is not crafty and ruthless enough to instigate China and India to fight a proxy war on its behalf. On the other hand, the present conflict in Northeast Asia can be traced to the triangular relationship of the US, North Korea and China. If we compare crafty North Korea to a salmon, the US and China could be compared to two foolish polar bears fighting over a slippery fish. The brilliant military strategy of the late Kim Jong-il has given a new twist to the meaning of proxy war. The proxy has become the patron, while the patrons have become the proxies. It's a case of the biter bit. Since its establishment as a nation, the US has been suffering from the bogeyman mentality. Throughout its history, the US has regarded other rivals such as Germany, Japan, Russia (or the former Soviet Union) and China as actual or potential bogeymen. Even during the final years of the Ching Dynasty, the US had harboured evil motives against China. In fact, its contest with China has started quietly at the end of World War 2 with permanent bases established in Japan and South Korea, not to mention its present misadventure in Afghanistan and the switch of its military focus to the Asia-Pacific. Hence, the contest between the US and China will be the great geopolitical struggle, not only of the first half of this century, but for many more centuries to come. There won't be any hope but doom for the whole world if one quarter of mankind are "pygmies". At least we should be able to find a handful of intellectuals among its poets, writers, scholars, academics, teachers, students, farmers, Buddhist monks, Taoist exorcists, coffin sellers, grave diggers, fortune tellers, geomancers, hermits, etc who could turn up to be great thinkers like Sun Zi and Zhuge Liang throughout China's history -- the past, the present and the future. P.S. You are an avowed Dengist today but hopefully an obedient Reedakist tomorrow. Zhuge Liang - Prime Minister of Shu Kingdom http://www.travelchinaguide.com/intro/history/three_kingdoms/zhugeliang.htm Sun Tzu http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_Tzu
It is indeed a violation of that agreement. The agreement does not include a Korean renunciation of satellites. I think, the USA uses the agreement as leverage to try to keep North Korea away from developing its overall autonomy and never meant to give any food to North Korea. See my current signature.
Bleipriester, et al, I'm not defending North Korea; but is it a real violation of the agreement? (COMMENT) References: The Agreed Framework at a Glance http://www.armscontrol.org/system/files/agreedframework.pdf Nuclear Nonproliferation: Implementation Of The U.S.! North Korean Agreed Framework On Nuclear Issues http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a344471.pdf I can't find the prohibition. Can you show it to me. Many Thanks, R
Granny says tell dat new Chinamen president to smack lil' Kim an' on top o' the head an' tell him to knock it off... China: US missile defense 'antagonizes' North Korea March 18, 2013 WASHINGTON As tensions mount over North Koreas developing nuclear program, China is warning the United States that its plans to beef up missile defenses could cause more problems.
Granny says if lil' Kim keeps it up, he gonna have his head handed to him onna platter... North Korea readies rockets after U.S. show of force 28 Mar.`13 - North Korea put its missile units on standby on Friday to attack U.S. military bases in South Korea and the Pacific, after the United States flew two nuclear-capable stealth bombers over the Korean peninsula in a rare show of force.
Granny says, "The inmates have gotten loose an' takin' over the loony bin... NKorea calls nukes country's 'life' at big meeting Mar 31,`13 -- A top North Korean decision-making body issued a pointed warning Sunday, saying that nuclear weapons are "the nation's life" and will not be traded even for "billions of dollars." See also: Why N. Korea regime is scary Fri March 29, 2013 > Scott A. Snyder is senior fellow for Korea studies and director of the program on U.S.-Korea policy at the Council on Foreign Relations. Before joining CFR, Snyder was a senior associate in the international relations program of The Asia Foundation, where he founded and directed the Center for U.S.-Korea Policy and served as The Asia Foundation's representative in Korea.
That, and secretary of state that isn't even remotely qualified for the post; only a clueless buffoon would actually hug a gangster's wife at the same time she's insulting her country, and in front of TV cameras no less, just to name one glaring instance of idiocy.
Depends on whatever the Chinese tell them to do. It seems that this latest munchkin noise is related to China's recent surge in belligerence and bullying; I guess they think their aircraft carrier makes them feel like adults now, and Obama's wimpiness is a window of opportunity they can exploit for concessions. They'll offer to 'rein in' their proxy, for some hefty concessions elsewhere, of course. If the U.S. and Europe really want to prevent a war, they will take a hard line on this shakedown garbage, and not follow the guaranteed failures appeasement has always resulted in. Both World Wars came about because of failures to take hard lines with aggressively imperialist nut jobs until very late in the gamesmanship.
Oh, yes. He's taken it way too far to walk away now, that would completely destroy what little authority/credibility he has with his own military. The question is, what will he do?
The NK's haven't shut down that border crossing into that SK industrial park they share as sort of a 'free trade' zone', and NK workers were still showing up at their jobs. Don't know if I would like that if I were SK, but apparently this hasn't affected the civilian and economic relations so far. About 80,000 Nk's work there, unless I misheard the news reports a while ago.
"He's taken it way too far to walk away now, that would completely destroy what little authority/credibility he has with his own military." Taxcutter says: Then that scenario I posited in the Military forum is valid.
