US Moves to Seize Iranian Tanker

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  1. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Well, if we can't start a war on one side of the planet, let's try the other side.
     
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    So as well as provoking Iran they believe they can get the Gibraltar court to hand it over on the basis that it is breaking US law by selling oil to another country which the US does not approve of and wants to harm.

    Britain is currently such a pawn to the US.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    When Britain leaves the EU without a trade deal, American support in terms of opening its markets will be vital.
    In this world, you never get something for nothing.
     
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    Absolutely. I am well aware that is the reason....and the Brexiters keep hollering they are getting Freedon!! Mind you word is that as they intend on ripping up the Good Friday agreement and more than likely causing renewed tensions in NI, the UK will not get said deal anyway.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politic...deal-if-northern-ireland-peace-at-risk-pelosi
     
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    The Gibraltar court just ruled to free the Iranian tanker, Grace 1, and mentioned that it had not reason to address the US request.
     
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    They may be in line for Admiral Arkipov Award.
     
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    We have to wait and see how it all unfolds, since despite the court's ruling in Gibraltar, there are behind the scene's maneuverings which have still left some questions marks as to when the tanker will actually be safely on its way out into the sea.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49362182
    Iran oil tanker: Gibraltar orders release of Grace 1
     
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    Funny stuff. I suspect there was no legitimate reason to continue holding it. Sad.

    No tweets so far from the Whiner in Chief.
     
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    This is actually for Americans reading this post, who think of Iran as a nation of bearded fanatics marching through the streets chanting 'Death to America, God is Great!'
    Look here. Download the paper and read it, or skim it. It's quite accessible. Try to read between the lines, as well -- she's not teaching in Berkeley.
    Now remember that every threatening gesture against Iran makes the voices of people like the author of this paper, weaker, and drives ordinary Iranians -- and their children, whom this woman teaches -- in the direction of the stereotype mentioned in the previous paragraph.
     
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    The tanker’s release is expected to pave the way for Iran to free the British-flagged tanker, Stena Impero, which it captured in the Persian Gulf last month. The brits shouldn't count on it.
     
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    No, a swap was offered but Dominic Raab our new Foreign Secretary said No. He thought it would look too much like it was. Handing back a boat which should not have been taken in return for getting back a boat which was taken in response.

    The UK was the one in the wrong here.
     
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    My best wishes for a safe journey for the Iranian tanker, which due to the sanctions and under measures against Iran, had to fly under a foreign flag (a practice that is common even for countries that don't face the same problems as Iran, but for somewhat different reasons). The tanker has been renamed from Grace 1 to Adrian Darya and reflagged under the Iranian flag, as it prepares to sail in the high seas.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...gibraltar-decides-to-free-it-tv-idUSKCN1V60A2
    Iran tanker prepares to leave after Gibraltar decides to free it: TV

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    In the meantime, the US is determined to show a bully will always be a bully! Besides threatening the crew the foreign crew of the tanker with such things as a visa ban, the US is showing its anger over the release of the vessel in other ways too.

    https://ca.finance.yahoo.com/news/gibraltar-court-agrees-release-detained-145110910.html
    U.S. Threatens Sanctions Over Iran Tanker After Court Ruling
    In the meantime, despite British attempts to suggest there is some promise by Iran regarding where this ship will sail and where it will take its cargo (Iran merely pointed out to the lack of any evidence even under Gibraltar law that the ship was heading to any sanctioned entity in Syria), the Iranian ambassador to the UK has pointed out that Iran has not made any promises or guarantees.

    https://en.radiofarda.com/a/iran-s-...en-no-guarantees-to-free-tanker/30111907.html
    Iran's Ambassador To UK Says Tehran Has Given No Guarantees To Free Tanker
     

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