US of AIPAC debates scrapping visas for Israelis

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    So then, AIPAC wants Israelis to have access to the United States without the formalities required by the rest of the world. Why ? Israelis aren't US nationals. Are they ? :mrgreen:

    Forget about any smokescreen of which class of Americans will be able to travel visa-free to Israel. That's just fudge designed to take your eye of the ball of the Zionists' freedom of America- despite a long list of United Nations resolutions against them and their complete failure to abide by international and humanitarian law.

    Are Israelis less likely to threaten..er....' homeland security ' ? Here's a list of Zionist terrorist organisations named by the US State Department;


    So how do Americans benefit from allowing a foreign power unhindered access to their country ?

    Are all Zionists a beleaguered group of brave and progressive holocaust survivors who deserve nothing but aid and assistance ? Judge for yourself;

    Warning; Foul language and threats of violence
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMFH80oScoY

    Thank you, AIPAC.
     
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    Where is the frenetic support for blanket approval of ' Israeli ' citizens ? Cat gotcha tongues ? :mrgreen:
     
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    Sorry, I couldnt understand the question throu all the b!tching.....could you clertify please ?
     
  4. moon

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    Sure, consider it clertified.
     
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    ah spelling jokes :)

    could you please explain the question you had for the Israelis here ?
     
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    I am going to clarify it for ALL in the following clip...

    Subject: : Absolutety Shocking And Frightening.


    IS THIS NEW YORK ???
    http://www.youtube.com/embed/HjFSi1AZTq8

    Is US asleep?

    After that, click the following link as a precursor of things to come if we (the Free World) will let things to deteriorate.

    Watch this site. http://www.flixxy.com/trumpet-solo-melissa-venema.htm

    It is called the Silence... this is what we would expect if things really go bad.
     
  7. moon

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    Off-topic Zionbollox.
     
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    Wizard From Oz Banned at Members Request

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    A number of nations in the world already enjoy the same privilege Israel is being offered
     
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    Of course, of course... pejorative for a retort...
    How about ARABOLLOX? It fits better!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. moon

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    Enlighten us please, would you sport.

    - - - Updated - - -

    The thread concerns blanket approval of Israelis. Arabs don't feature and so there's no opportunity for your pungent brand of racism.
     
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    No worries.

    So the visa waiver programme- of which I was not aware, so thank you- permits citizens of certain States to visit, visa-free, for up to 90 days. Considering the list of Zionist terrorist organisations featured earlier is it any wonder that there should be constraints upon allowing Israelis such a privilege ?
     
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    The USA wants our citizens to have borderless, unfettered access to anywhere in the world. We want the freedom to travel: for business travel, tourism, academic purposes, or really for any reason, or even no reason at all.

    If we can get such travel freedoms from a foreign country by offering a mutual agreement for them in return, and that country isn't hostile to us, why shouldn't we go ahead and offer a "free travel" treaty?

    Also, if we, in the USA, aren't getting equal treatment of free travel for ALL of our citizens shouldn't we have the right to question or retract the foreign country's free access because they aren't playing fair with us?
     
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    Admirable. US citizens can never be safe though, on account of American foreign policy.

    No reason, it's a good idea

    Of course. Israel's paranoia prevents it from reciprocating- understandably so as it is a hated State- and so should not be granted any such privilege. Also, visiting Israelis are bad news for any country, not least because of the expenses and trouble of protecting them- upon which they are known to insist. Zionists are also a terrorist threat and Israel is out of step with international law and its United Nations responsibilities. The US will get nothing but bad press from collaborating with such a State. Some might think that a back-rub from AIPAC would be adequate compensation. I'm not one of them.
     
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    I would assume the expectation is that there would not be any Israelis traveling to the US to conduct clandestine operations
     
  18. moon

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    Huge amounts of cash are already- illegally- transferred from the US to Israel. Who do you think wants to give Zionists a free pass ?
     
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    I'm sorry but I don't see things from that point of view. Here's a culture difference between you and I right here. The USA doesn't have terrorist problems from Israeli visitors.

    And, the USA is a very safe country for ALL international visitors not only because we provide a good amount of security protection (and really it's no problem), but we also raise our citizens to have a tolerant, non-violent world view. If anyone steps over the line of toleration to give you lip, that's frowned upon in the USA and people who go down that road will find themselves in ruin in the court of public opinion after the identity of that person with such an attitude is made public, just like in the case of Paula Deen.

    If anyone gives you problems in the USA -- refusal of service, racism, vandalism, hate crimes, ect -- you're in your rights to sue, or at least report it to law enforcement, and we'll happily, and quickly take the offensive party down hard because such displays offend most of us as a matter of principle.
     
  20. moon

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    Seriously, you sound like a voice from 1952. You're actually describing the USA that made such an impression upon the world's less fortunate societies. I'm minded of Air-stream trailers, Constellation liners, Rosemary Clooney and sarsaparilla. I'm very sad that you're an anachronism .

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    Citizen or National of a VWP Designated Country
    You must be a citizen or national of VWP-participant country. The following 37 countries are Visa Waiver Program participants:

    Currently, 37 countries participate in the Visa Waiver Program, as shown below:

    Andorra Hungary New Zealand
    Australia Iceland Norway
    Austria Ireland Portugal
    Belgium Italy San Marino
    Brunei Japan Singapore
    Czech Republic Latvia Slovakia
    Denmark Liechtenstein Slovenia
    Estonia Lithuania South Korea
    Finland Luxembourg Spain
    France Malta Sweden
    Germany Monaco Switzerland
    Greece the Netherlands Taiwan (see note below)
    United Kingdom
    With respect to all references to “country” or “countries” on this page, it should be noted that the Taiwan Relations Act of 1979, Pub. L. No. 96-8, Section 4(b)(1), provides that “[w]henever the laws of the United States refer or relate to foreign countries, nations, states, governments, or similar entities, such terms shall include and such laws shall apply with respect to Taiwan.” 22 U.S.C. ยง 3303(b)(1). Accordingly, all references to “country” or “countries” in the Visa Waiver Program authorizing legislation, Section 217 of the Immigration and Nationality Act, 8 U.S.C. 1187, are read to include Taiwan. This is consistent with the United States’ one-China policy, under which the United States has maintained unofficial relations with Taiwan since 1979.

    http://travel.state.gov/visa/temp/without/without_1990.html#canada
     
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    I'm not sure how to intepret your statement in view of your photographs..

    However, I'm not an anachronism in the USA and you can forget 1952 since I've never seen it. As a person in the millennial generation, I've only seen life on this side of the 1980s and I can tell you that a regiment of political correctness has been the norm in the USA since at least the 1990s. I watched as the PC movement attached to our culture in the 1980s And, I can tell you that I like life on this side of the 1990s a lot. Life here is better than ever even if our culture lacks the finesse and classiness of previous generations.

    You might not know it from some of the posts on this board, from people in the USA, but in person almost everyone in the USA will tolerate you, even if they hate your politics, or your looks, or your nation of origin, they will zip their lip in public.

    People in the USA are usually polite at least during the day while out in public, even if they are evil at night. Heh heh. ;) To do otherwise would invite looks of scorn, worry, and maybe even calls to 911 emergency services from everyone around them. Since creating a public disturbance for such prejudice is seen as a sign of mental disorder/ distress.
     
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    The term "Zionists"is kind of a giveaway.
     
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    I am just curious if you recognize the soldiers behind the little girl (Kim Phuc) are not American?

    I am not saying that I don't agree with some of your ideas. It might have been better to show Americans through Abu Ghraib or pissing on those dead soldiers in Afghanistan. That would do it. Just saying.
     
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    The plane that drop the napalm was also a south vietnamese airforce plane.
     

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