US says it will send troops to eastern Europe if Russia invades Ukraine

I have never needed any history lessons. But you are free to present a case for something if you wish to advance an argument.

Nonsense. Let's see some proof that they did that.

Russia's invasions of Georgia and Ukraine are not made up. They really do exist.

It's what made Napoleon decide to attack and invade his neighbors.

Would we do that though? What would it do to our credit rating?

 

You obviously have not thought this through.

 

Interesting.

I was hoping to see how the entire war would play out. But as far as I can see they never did any subsequent battles in the war after that opening battle.

Their simulation of a large airstrike against an S400 battery comparing "the results if F/A-18s are used" against "the results if F-35s are used" was interesting too though.

The F-35 is going to be an outstanding ground attack aircraft.

 

Only about 12.5% of the land mass of China is even capable of growing food crops
That is their achilles heel.

 

Trump HANDLED Putin
BS, Trump took Putins word over US intelligence.

 

Geriatric Joe is the President of the United States, and has been for well over eleven months... please, let us remember THAT, if nothing else.

Next, it might be helpful to a truthful, candid discussion to reflect on the FACT that during his four years in office, never once did Donald Trump confront a situation in which Russia conducted an invasion of Ukraine.

And, to be fair, up to this moment, on January 2, 2022, during the current Biden presidency, Russia has not conducted an invasion of Ukraine... can we at least agree on that much...?

Now, we can resume all the "woulda-coulda-shoulda" bloviation, if that's what everybody wants to engage in, but sometimes it's helpful to just start over by restating the FACTS of the matter....

 

Nothing whatsoever. Going to war with someone is a good reason to cancel all debts you owe them and recognized as such since time immemorial. It's more than a little silly to be bombing another nation and killing its citizens but still paying them money they might then use to kill yours. My own feeling is that Biden really wishes the Chinese would invade Taiwan. It will guarantee his reelection.

No? What do you think will happen?

 

Not this.

First of all, if we got involved in defending Taiwan, it would lead to a military defeat of US Naval forces, and secondly, "cancel all the debt we owe them" sounds like we would renege on US Treasuries, which if I recall, is unconstitutional, but regardless would lead to the collapse of the International bond market and plunge the world into a depression, and for the US, we would lose our ability to borrow money on world markets. The dollar would no longer be the world reserve currency and we would suddenly have to deal with a massive interest rate rise and could no longer deficit spend.

But go ahead and root for China.

 

Yeah the F35 is a game changer the only question is would they be present in the South China sea when hostilities start?

It also functions as an awacs to give 4th generation aircraft targeting info.

This dude posts individual Sims, its getting to the point that they can model specific airfields in Taiwan and what would happen if their runways were destroyed.

 

We have been through this previously .. another History lesson definitly needed - NATO moving into the Ex Soviet Nations .. Wrong again.

You show proof that the Iran Drone for the reasons that you claim .. rather than asking folks to disprove your claim-Fallacy.

From another convo. Your claim that Syria -Russia were responsible for arming ISIS-Al Qaeda . completely backwards -- the reverse is true. Wrong on Steroids that one is. Obama led a large Coalition of nations to arm the Syrian Rebels .. from 2011 onwards. Did you not realize the US was on the Side of Al Qaeda - ISIS in the War in Syria ? Wrong .. Wrong .. Wrong you are

 

Biden is smart enough to get the rest of the world behind him, a.k.a., allies.

 

The world sees how Biden treats allies.

 

I'm not sure that the financial ratings agencies will agree with that.

Probably, but I think China is still about ten years from being ready to start the war.

I do think that China intends to start the war when they feel that they are ready though.

It should be. I think we are still some years away from war breaking out.

The new B-21 bombers will be a great help too.

One thing I like about the STOVL F-35B is that it can make use of cratered runways.

Not if we are wise in how we deploy them.

The US Navy can keep Chinese shipping out of 95% of the world's oceans without coming within range of China's land-based missiles.

There is no reason to come in close to shore in order to wage a blockade.

 

I have no need of any history lessons. I am already aware of history. But you are of course free to try to present a case to back up your position if you wish to do so.

No, everything that I have said is correct.

You are the only one who has made a claim about the reason why the drone crashed.

You have yet to back up your claim.

No it isn't. Islamic State was armed by Bashir al-Assad.

Yes. The Free Syrian Army. Those were innocent civilians who were trying to prevent Bashir al-Assad from committing genocide against them.

I do my best to not "realize" things that are not true.

No. Everything that I've said is correct.

 

I wonder if they need to start drafting into the services again?

 

They will draft trannies and soy boys.

 

I'd like to know how any ratings agency would have dealt with the American public if they had demanded we keep paying our debts to Japan after Pearl Harbor

 

What case .. you had no idea about NATO expansion into the former Soviet nations - what more evidence do you need .. Wrong - Again

You were the first one to give reason for drone crash.. was this made up - or do you have some support ? Wrong again about who needs prove what.

This is just laughably wrong .. and another history lesson you are in need of. Your claim that Assad who was giving the Syrian Rebels sophisticated US technology - and shipped over the left over equipment from the War in Yugoslavia .. is a big pile of laughable nonsense.

Wrong again

Wrong again .. The FSA was Al Qaeda/Al Nusra / Islamic Front/ ISIS .. and a host of other radical Islamist groups.

This is going to be fun Educating you on the War in Syria .. Wrong at every turn mate.

.. humor -- dancing around in a circle crying out "Im Always Right" as you are so wont to do.. is not an argument for much... nor does it make your numerous errors go away.

 

Beats me. Perhaps you have no case to present.

I merely expressed my willingness to listen to your case if you chose to present one.

I have no idea what conversation you are even referring to.

If you are referring to the Baltics I have very much heard of their entry into NATO.

Some sort of proof to back up your claim about the drone would be nice.

No, everything that I've said remains true.

I speculated on what I thought the likely cause was.

I did not make a concrete and definite claim about the cause like you did.

Neither. But I do have the fact that there is no actual reason to think that Iran was responsible.

No, I continue to be correct.

No it isn't.

I am not in need of any such lesson.

Untrue claims do not constitute a history lesson in any case.

No such claim.

I said nothing about Assad equipping rebels, about Assad equipping anyone with US technology, or about equipment from any of the wars in Yugoslavia.

No. All of my statements continue to be correct.

Again no. All of my statements continue to be correct.

No they weren't. They did ally with them though.

I'm unfamiliar with them, but I doubt that they are the Free Syrian Army.

No. Islamic State is quite different from the Free Syrian Army.

Islamic State is the group that Bashir al-Assad created and armed.

No. The Free Syrian Army are ordinary people who tried to resist the genocide that Bashir al-Assad is perpetrating against them.

Your untrue statements are not really educational.

No. All of my statements continue to be correct.

It is the correct response though when you falsely accuse me of imaginary errors.

No such errors. Everything that I've said remains true.

 

Then why did you not know of any reasons why Russia wold be pissed off ?
Some sort of proof to back up your claim about the drone would be nice.

Answer the Questions instead of dodging around

You claimed it was Russia and Assad who aremed the Anti Assad Rebels in Syria .. Are you claiming that the arms from former Yugo -War -- and sophisticated US technology came from Russia-Assad ?

Did you not realize the FSA was Al Qaeda/ISIS - Islamic Front - and other extremist Islamist Groups ?

Completely wrong on both accounts Im afraid mate.... History ..

 

I doubt if anyone in the media had access to such information. The confidential thoughts of the President are rarely made public. Media propaganda based up assumption and bias, however, is available everywhere.

 

Because Russia is not pissed off. They are just making up excuses to justify their aggression.

You have not asked many questions, but I have answered the ones that you have asked, and you are wrong to act as if I have not.

You are also wrong to say that I am dodging anything.

No I didn't.

No. I said nothing about either.

I make it a point to not "realize" things that are not true.

Everything that I've said is correct.

These untrue claims that you keep making are not history.

 

To refresh your memory

• https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/16/trump-russia-putin-summit-722418

 

Are you still stuck on the totally debunked "Russian Collusion" thing? LOL... send me your address. I'll send you a new calendar and maybe something else you can glom onto like the "Teapot Dome Affair" or "Tammany Hall". LOLOL... by the way... its now 2022 AD.

 

Argue with recorded history.