US says it will send troops to eastern Europe if Russia invades Ukraine

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  1. Thedimon

    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    And by far!
    When was the last time a president caused so much alteration of citizens everyday lives?
     
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    Thedimon Well-Known Member

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    I see you just continue spreading Russian propaganda.
    Good bot!
     
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    What a stupid argument.

    Were you sleeping in your history classes?

    The American non-intervention in Europe since the invasion of Poland was a terrible historical mistake.

    If Hitler had not invaded Russia and the US had not intervened, Europe would still be under the Nazi flag today .... with 10 million Jews gassed.
     
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    the people voted Trump out cause he was a failure
     
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    Trump has proven to be a better president than Brandon or Obama.
     
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    I wasn't making an argument, I was stating a fact, although I do enjoy your alternate history pitch. Maybe you can develop that over at the Creative Corner.
     
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    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So did the permission to continue the Russian pipeline granted by Branden help to weaken Russia too? You know, Trump did stop it at one time.
     
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    So posting pictures of Ukraine's state-run Nazi regiment AZOV standing in Kiev's main square, Sophia Square (Софийская площадь), is Russian bot propaganda? Nice try but Ukies own it.

    Google maps people, have fun.
     
  9. Thedimon

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    You are extremely over exaggerating things.
    If Ukraine was ran but Nazis or if they were all Nazis, then how do you explain the fact that an ethnic Jew who can barely speak Ukrainian because his native language is Russian was elected by Ukrainians to lead their country?
    See how easy it is to poke a hole in your pathetic little story that is being parroted everywhere by Russian bots?
     
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    Yeah, I know Zelensky is a Jew. So what. He does whatever his puppet master tells him to do. That's Ihor Kolomoisky...who happens to be under sanctions by the clueless USA. Kolomoisky funded AZOV. Kolomoisky is linked to atrocity in Odessa....ethnic Russians burned alive. Kolomoisky is linked to the downing of MH-17. Want to see the video of him all but admitting to it? And Kolomoisky is a Jew too. You see, those Ukies are some unique types. The Ukrainian Nazi is not the German Nazi....the Ukrainian Nazi can be Jewish or not, that doesn't matter, what matters is the genocide of ethnic Russians (no matter if they are Jewish or not either).

    How's this for a kicker....Israel is arming the Nazis in Kiev:

    https://electronicintifada.net/content/israel-arming-neo-nazis-ukraine/24876

    So wrap your head around that. (But of course you already know)
     
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    Kolomoysky is a Russian-speaking ethnic Jew himself. So, you are basically claiming here that a Jew is finding Nazis. See how stupid it is?
    Or I guess not. You started to go into Russian absurd conspiracy ramble about MN-17, so I have serious doubts now that you can see logical contradiction even when it sits on your face. Stopped reading after this point.
     
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    Ukrainians elected a Russian-speaking citizen to run their country. What genocide of ethnic Russians? Your claim is as absurd as claims about racism in the US when Obama was the president. There is no genocide against blacks in the US and there is no genocide against Russian-speakers in Ukraine.
    :roll:
     
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    Provide an accurate link to the "ethno genocide " that's going on in the Donbas?

    Considering DPR is off limits to Ukrainian govt forces....this should be hilarious?
     
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    What did the US get out of this meeting?

    Brandon already gave Putin the pipeline.

    Did we get concessions?

    Did we get anything at all?
     
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    Oh, you trying the shell game now? ALL so-called Ukrainians speak Russian, but not all ethnic Russians speak Ukrainian. Russian is an official language of Kyrgyzstan....and the point is the language ain't got nothing to do with it and you know it.

    Didn't I say he is a Jew? Why yes I did. Here's your Jew conspiracy video:

    A 'trifle'



    Your Ukraine is the armpit of Europe....really it's the bunghole but I'm being nice.
     
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    In 30 years of independence all schools were teaching using Ukrainian language. Almost all print and TV is in Ukrainian. Everyone who lives in Ukraine can speak Ukrainian.

    I got it! You are a conspiracy nut!

    A middle class Ukrainian can afford a used car, a cell phone, rent, or even purchase real estate using mortgage. They can also travel visa-free to many western countries. Who are you to judge what they do inside Ukraine? Whoever is forcing you to visit - take it up with them!
     
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    Haven't you realized yet that Putin is not bluffing?

    There is a real risk of triggering the 3rd world war.

    He will never accept that Ukraine becomes a member of NATO and that he is ready to invade it to prevent this from happening.

    It is precisely because the US strategy of containment works that Russia cannot accept an ally of the West as a neighbor.

    Russia is in economic crisis and is hit hard by COVID.

    The sanctions are also hurting

    Putin feels that his regime is weakened and is looking for a way out to prevent a slow deterioration of his political situation.

    A pipeline is only a detail in what is happening right now.
     
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    In red, that's a lie. It's one of the whole damn reasons for Crimea holding the referendum and the LPR and DPR declaring independence. You, sir, are the propagandist.

    Oh yeah, school teachers making bank. $350/month.
     
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    I grew up in Kiev. Everyone could speak Ukrainian. Every time I went outside of the capital I saw even more Ukrainian. And that was over 20 years ago. The only one spreading lies is you and it’s easy to see because of your own self-contradicting claims.

    Wrong.

    Ever heard of cost of living? You think they pay as much as you do for common fruits and vegetables?
     
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    Sanctions have been overplayed in Russia. They've worked around them. Economic crisis? Seemed to be doing pretty good in August. Maybe you could give us a firsthand account as to this economic crisis? Maybe go see it for yourself?
     
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    Whatever dude. Maybe you went outside Kiev to Lviv...they certainly speak Ukrainian there. Hardly anybody speaks Ukrainian in Kiev over the age of 35. I use my limited Russian just fine.

    Yeah, those cars cost as much as fruits and vegetables. Uh huh.

    At least you got it right, Kiev. Seems to me you haven't been there as much as I have in the last decade. It's Ukie Kyiv since 2015.
     
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    Russia isn't going to start ww3.

    He's slow rolled Obama and he's gonna do the same now.

    Bidens demonstrated time and time again that he will give his adversaries what they want.

    Today Biden called his country the United Steak of America.

     
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    And to think that you are a disciple of an ex-POTUS who boasts of having fallen in love with Kim Jong Un...
     
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    better at what, lol
     
  25. Thedimon

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    Just because they understood your limited Russian doesn’t mean they can’t speak Ukrainian.
    They have access to cheaper cars. And even in the us you can buy a car for under $2,000 that can run for a couple of years. So, yes, even with Ukrainian salary, it’s realistic for an average middle class citizen to save up and buy a car if they feel like they need one.
    I’m not into virtue signaling. I know how it’s officially spelled. I was born there and raised on Russian language. Ukrainians elected a Russian-speaking citizen despite Russian claims of genocide against ethnic Russians. And your attempt to draw a distinction between Russian-speaking Ukrainians and ethnic Russians is bovine excrement because no one can easily tell the difference between those two groups.
    You are spreading Russian propaganda like a Russian bot and I am here to call you out on that.
     
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