US shoots down second Iran-made armed drone over Syria in 12 days

I don't know what right the US gives itself to shoot down military assets belonging to Syria operating within Syria's recognized borders, or those which are operated by Syria's allies within that country's territory? The Syrian government, which never invited the Americans to establish in base in that country in the first place, will have every right to treat these American forces as an invading force. If the presence of the Americans, even if not invited, could be tolerated when they were allegedly in Syria to fight another enemy of the Syrian state, namely ISIS, the situation is fast becoming intolerable as these forces take increasingly hostile acts against Syrian government and allied forces.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/20/us-iran-drone-shot-down-syria

 

For the second time in a month, a U.S Air Force F-15 has downed an Iranian drone after it flew too close to U.S.-backed forces in southern Syria.

This is the fifth time the U.S. has been forced to target Assad-backed forces. While the U.S.-led coalition says it is focused on fighting the Islamic State, it will nevertheless respond when they feel threatened by the Syrian regime.....snip~


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/cortn...s-shoots-down-iranian-drone-in-syria-n2343771

Looks like they considered it a threat. Tell the Iranians don't get caught up looking like that.

 

Where are those US F-15 fighters attacking the Syrian forces based?

 

In what is a "first of its kind" incident, there is also a report about Pakistan shooting down an Iranian drone flying over Pakistan. As there are wahhabi funded Al Queda/ISIS type groups which operate out of Pakistan and occasionally carry terrorist attacks on Iran's borders with Pakistan, Iran naturally tries to keep close eye on activities in this region. This action by Pakistan, however, suggests that the faction in Pakistani government that is beholden to Saudi money is becoming more assertive.

https://en.dailypakistan.com.pk/headline/paf-jet-shoots-down-iranian-spy-drone-in-balochistan/

 

Could be in Jordan.....then again they could be in Israel. Even Qatar.

 

Important question in my mind, since it will imply different things. For instance, if the F-15 flew out of a US aircraft carrier, it would put to question Russia's willingness to enforce the red line they had drawn and their statement on how they would react to such flights. If it was flown from Turkey, that would itself be significant. As for Jordan, I think they are beginning to act very recklessly.

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.796877
Wary of Iran, Jordan and Israel Grow Closer as Syrian Tumult Continues
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-1.796877

In the meantime,
http://kfgo.com/news/articles/2017/...-militias-launch-offensive-in-eastern-desert/
Rebels say Syrian army, Iranian-backed militias launch offensive in eastern desert

 

Well it was an F-18 that that shot down the Syrian Jetfighter. I forgot it could have come out of Iraq too.


According to a statement from the Pentagon, pro-Syrian regime forces attacked the U.S.-backed Syrian Democratic Forces-held town of Ja'Din, south of Tabqah in northern Syria, wounding a number of SDF fighters and driving the SDF from the town.

Coalition aircraft conducted a show of force and stopped the initial pro-regime advance toward the town, the Pentagon said. Following the pro-Syrian forces attack, the coalition called its Russian counterparts "to de-escalate the situation and stop the firing," according to the statement.

A few hours later, the Syrian SU-22 dropped bombs near SDF fighters and, "in collective self-defense of coalition-partnered forces," was immediately shot down by a U.S. F/A-18E Super Hornet, the Pentagon said.

U.S. forces tangled earlier this month with Syria-allied aircraft in the region. On June 8, U.S. officials reported that a drone likely connected to Iranian-supported Hezbollah forces fired on U.S.-backed troops and was shot down by an American fighter jet. The incident took place in southern Syria near a base where the U.S.-led coalition was training Syrian rebels fighting the Islamic State group.

An Army spokesman at the Pentagon said at the time that the drone carried more weapons and was considered a direct threat, prompting the shootdown.....snip~

http://start.att.net/news/read/cate...ss-us_shoots_down_syrian_air_force_fighter-ap

 

There have been different incidents and while they are related, they shouldn't be confused.

In one incident a couple of weeks ago, the US shot down an Iranian made, Shahed 129, drone. This was the first time the US had reportedly shot down a drone operated by pro Assad forces in Syria.

Subsequently, a few days ago, the US shot down an Su-22 fighter operated by the Syrian air force using an F-18 fighter. This then caused Russia to warn that it would basically treat any US planes operating west of the Euphrates river as hostile.

Yesterday, the US shot down a second Iranian made Shahed 129 drone using an F-15 fighter. The issue for me from which base and location did this F-15 operate?

 

Even the most stupid begin to understand that the US invades other countries for the power, the influence, etc. The US wants to subjugate the entire world. Squeals about dictators, tyrants, freedoom of speech, values... are just propaganda for a brainless herd of rams who believe but not think.

"The bullshit is the glue that binds us as a nation."(George Carlin)

 

"The Syrian government" failed in earning the trust of the Syrian ppl (5 Million refugees), lost the right to speak or act on behalf of the Syrian ppl (5 Million refugees + 1 Million dead), lost land to rebels within and savages from outside - has no legitimacy to rule and no say to other countries that are affected by this crisis. they lost their given sovereignty, ofc any country that does operate there (with or without Assad blessing) is responsible for the good and bad things they inflict, you can't wash that away with "Assad blessing".

 

BS, Obama didnt interfere with Egypt and Syria crisis, and I think it proves that by not doing anything in Syria has same/worse results to doing something as in Iraq.

 

That's probebly resricted info.....

 

First, the US craeted an army of terrorists and starting a civil war in Syria and then they say something like "we can not look at this bloodshed" and invade Syria. If US army were at home then Iraq would be a peaceful country now , Libya prospered, in Syria the peace, even in Afghanistan would be better than now. ISIS would not exist. Millions of refugees would not have come to the EU and dozens of terrorist attacks would not have occurred.

 

Our State Depts BS about supporting this group for that and counter terrorism this and that is total CRAP.

What are our goals there? This is our military taking martial action in someone else's country for fk sakes. Against that country? And it's not cheap.

Are we so butthurt the US about not getting our way with our attempt at regime change in Syria that we are willing to risk a war even if limited to conventional with Russia? Whats the payoff?

What I'm trying so say is what's so godawful important geopoliticaly right now there to risk that... not even taking into account the billions we are spending and loss of US troops? We have lost some too. That is with me completely ignoring the fact it's against International law. OK so we the US are blatantly circumventing that because no one can stop us. OK whatever! What's the Fkn goal?

That's all I want to know.

 

The US carrying out more war mongering on foreign soil. Nothing changes...

 

Excuse me can you extrapolate on the part I bolded in your post? THAT is an extraordinary statement. Elaborate please. Why do you think that?

 

I disagree. We are always meddling.. Usually behind thinly veiled proxies via support or cash... Not our armed forces engaging directly with an opponent that is supported by a super power and International law... In their country

That's new.

We are pushing hard and I just want to know what the goal is.

 

Hardly. You can't hide F15s or any aircraft after they are used once unless they are moved elsewhere between flights

 

Meanwhile the UN is being its typical toothless self and only addressing the catastrophic humanitarian issues and not the core conflict.. By nations all a part of its organization.

I like that bold part of his statement. /snort. Hello Secretary General? Hello? How about you ask wth we are all doing there anyway?

“Civilians continue to be killed, injured and displaced at a terrifying rate [and] places of refuge, such as hospitals and schools continue to be targeted,” said the Secretary-General in a statement today.

“I make an urgent appeal to all those conducting military operations in Syria to do everything in their power to protect civilians and civilian infrastructure,” he added.

In the statement, the UN chief voiced particular concern for the civilians in Raqqa as well as those stuck in other besieged and hard-to-reach areas, some of whom have been deprived of food and basic medical assistance for years on end.

According to estimates, more than 430,000 civilians are in need across the larger Raqqa governorate, in areas either cut off from relief or where transporting aid is extremely difficult. In all, the crisis – now it in its seventh year – has left more than 13.5 million people in need of humanitarian assistance, displaced 6.3 million internally, and forced more than 5.1 million to flee across Syrian borders.


http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=57026#.WUqRsZ8pDqA

 

To answer your question, an F-15 is not a jet that would fly off an aircraft carrier. It would be land-based, so my best bet is that it flew out of Incirlik.

However, there's a good chance that the F-18 that shot down the Syrian Sukhoi did fly off an aircraft carrier.

 

Or the toothless and feckless UN might want to ask why it hasn't formed an international coalition to halt the conflict, war crimes and humanitarian catastrophe that has become a problem for the international community.

For that matter, why hasn't the Arab League or the Organization of the Islamic Conference done anything to stop it?

 

U.S. forces tangled earlier this month with Syria-allied aircraft in the region. On June 8, U.S. officials reported that a drone likely connected to Iranian-supported Hezbollah forces fired on U.S.-backed troops and was shot down by an American fighter jet. The incident took place in southern Syria near a base where the U.S.-led coalition was training Syrian rebels fighting the Islamic State group.

An Army spokesman at the Pentagon said at the time that the drone carried more weapons and was considered a direct threat, prompting the shootdown.....snip~


Next time, don't fire on those who we are training and where our people are around. This way you can't cry out about the US carrying out more war mongering. While already being involved in war mongering.

 

So Iran has had at least 3 drones shot down by other countries?

Sounds like they should stop flying near where they are not wanted.

Our guys appreciate the target practice though!

 

Syria is not a US state! You were not invited. US desires constant turmoil in the Middle East. US Foreign policy does not significantly change with whoever is in government

 

You mean the US wasn't invited by Assad and the Syrian Regime. But were invited by those fighting to get rid of Assad and the Syrian Regime, Right?

As long as we don't do any Nation Building.....that will be the change up.