USA planing for WW#3?

I am old enough ...

A Communistic system gave every Soviet people home, healthcare ets much better than you have.

I can blame the U.S. for the destruction of the Soviet Union.

I can blame the U.S. for attempts of destruction of Russia.

U.S. attempts destroy every country for self domination.

 

USSR was isolated country. Becouse cold climate USSR had no coffee. It was not big problem for russians. `Bread lines` is lie.

 

Prior to grain sale agreements in the 70's when we started selling large quantities of wheat, rye and corn to the Soviet Union....the Soviet winter wheat crops would fail and fail again due to bad weather and poor farming techniques

These failures were mostly hidden in the 50's and 60's and were finally admitted to in the early 70's.

There were bread lines...perhaps before you were born.

AboveAlpha

 

A certain amount of travel, and some years participating upon fora such as this, have made me aware of a reflexive anti-Americanism on the part of most Europeans, and similarly reflexive anti-British sentiments on the part of perhaps most Americans. This is not conducive to meaningful discussion, or an exchange of ideas which may benefit both participants.

Irrespective of recent history, we Europeans need to realise that we may never understand the typical American world view. There are many elements which combine to create this problem, not least of which is the fact that Europeans are still Brits, Frenchmen, Germans, Russians, Italians, etc. whereas Americans are one nation. 'You Europeans' is only ever a vaguely descriptive (if pejorative - when used by Americans) term, and does little to describe the particular characteristics of French, German, or British society. So trans-Atlantic relations are not enhanced by such nomenclature.

There is an enormous problem with generalisation on both sides of the pond. Americans are not all loudmouthed, demanding braggarts. They are every bit as variable as we are on this side. E.g: there are highly cultured, educated and gracious Americans, just as there are obnoxious street thugs in London.

One of the major stumbling blocks to European understanding is the in-built propaganda system within American society. The cult of exceptionalism, combined with that of nationalism, goes a long way to ensuring that even the most naturally self-effacting American has been told, from the time he/she could understand language, that everything American is ipso facto superior to all things not American. This is not necessarily done overtly, but my a myriad, almost subliminal, societal messages. Hence we have such ludicrous concepts as something obviously undesirable being recognised as 'un-American' (with the equally ludicrous corollary) - as though being born in a certain geographic location automatically endows one with inherent virtue or vice.

On the personal level, Americans are amongst my favourite people, and I have very close friends in California, Oregon, and Texas, but I recognise the limitations of understanding, and despite the ostensible sharing of language (sort of) I found the USA to be amongst the most 'foreign' countries I have visited (none the less delightful - but very foreign indeed).

So I consider it unlikely that we Europeans will understand the common American sociological view with regard to things such as healthcare, societal violence (particularly gun violence), and the historical record (in particular, the two World Wars). Further complications arise due to differing concepts of appropriate behaviour. Per example - few Americans seem to understand the British concept of understatement and diffidence - particularly in relation to one's own circumstances. I am not at all sure self-effacing comments are fully understood on the western side of the Atlantic.

So perhaps we should simply discuss these and other matters in the spirit of recognising interesting differences. My one specific recommendation being that some Americans stop this nonsense of telling me I would be speaking German were it not for their nation's benevolence - I already speak the language acceptably (according to my German friends - who are doubtless being kind).

 

This is lie. Last time, when it was, it happened in 1948. Destroied country + cold winter = bread deficit.

Сold winter was in 1972. `bread lines` no happened. USSR was strong. USSR bought bread, US got prifit. You did nothing free for USSR or any one else.

 

No, as a matter a fact I did not know that. Because it's not true. I thought that the USSR had been dissolved...why do you Russians still have this propaganda in your head?

I'm 15 years old. I don't have a job yet. Why does that matter? I'm smart enough to know that the United States is a major fabric that has held this world together both economically and militarilly since the last World War, and we should continue that role to prevent the next.

I'm quite perplexed as to why you think that our economy is only a simulation. It's given more to the world in terms of inventions then any nation in human history. If our economy is simply a "simulation", then what is it simulating, and what does that make Russia's? If your trying to critizize my country out of national pride, it really isn't working, as my country's economic problems are nothing compared to yours.

The proof is in the numbers; the American GDP is by far the largest, and per capita it is the highest among the world's large countries.

Our debt is large; of course, and that's a major problem, but that doesn't discount the fact that we have the largest economy in the world. Virtually nobody denies this!

 

First of all Anatol...I don't lie.

Secondly....here is a link to actual PICTURES OF SOVIET BREAD LINES.

https://www.google.com/search?q=sov...6I8e0kQe9n4C4DA&ved=0CCsQsAQ&biw=1024&bih=678

AboveAlpha

 

This type of fatalistic thinking does not prevent our political elites from living to the fullest like there's no tomorrow, and in fact they may use it to justify their excesses and usurpations of power. Great many of the world's problems have to do with the sheer lack of sense of moderation by the elites and their unsatiated ego.

 

it would be better to think about propaganda in your head...

I'm 40 years old. I am russian. I am hardly working for 20 years.
Look around you. Everything, as You see, is produced in China. Your `economy` is only big `Wall mart`, no more. US produce toilet paper, called US dollar, aircraft carriers to begin WW3


Russia produce many things

 

I believe my mother, not your (maybe falsed) pictures. Nobody knows where you get it...

 

After the abandonment of the two-power standard in the inter-war period, by which the Royal Navy maintained a number of battleships at least equal to the combined strength of the next two largest navies, Germany's foreign policy got assertive as it felt free to invade its neighbours. America needs to carry the proverbial "big stick" to negotiate peacefully with rogue states with the threat of use of force even if it has no intention of starting a world war. Biden has visited Asia to resolve the crisis in the East China Sea this week and his diplomatic efforts would be unsuccessful without the backing of America's unparalleled military might just as Chamberlain was at Munich.

 

I'll say this: America has invented or perfected the top five most influential inventions of the last hundred years: the car, the airplane, the telephone, television, and the Internet. I'm not sure how you can call an economy that did that a "simulation". Again, who are we simulating? Martians?

Do you or do you not understand that America has the biggest economy in the world, and so it makes sense that we also need the biggest military to protect it?

Many of the things, if not most in America are made in foreign countries, true. But, I don't think that's a bad thing; hardly; it shows how developed our economy is in that we can focus on white collar jobs requiring higher education. For example, I live 3 miles from the headquarters of Nike. They don't build anything there but the benefits of the white collar, high paying jobs for my community are enormous. It's certainly a lot better then having the factory there!

Just out of curiosity: What kind of computer are you using? Is it American? Does it run an American operating system? How about the web browser?

 

Are You loving american "big stick"? And the people, like you ("big stick" lovers), continuously asking why so much people hate USA.
US politics is best propaganda against US.
Don`t wonder if anybody shoot you with `love` to US "big stick" ...

 

This is just sad the propaganda that's been thrown at you:

Let me ask you this: If the US wanted world domination, then why didn't we take over the world? For many years we were the only nation on earth to have nuclear weapons. We could have put our flag anywhere we wanted to. But we didn't.

Then of cousre the expansionist USSR came along, and we had to start making threats.

 

It shows that your `economy` is only simulation and americans are parasites, living to debts...

I don`t need Nike at all...

 

So your mother living under a communist dictatorship was better informed then virtually every historian on the Internet? Really?

Why would somebody fake those pictures? Your government has much more of a reason to deny them then somebody has to fake them.

 

Russia get nuclear weapons in 1949 only 4 years after US.
US never had enough power to put US flag anywhere ... even Korea, Vietnam and Sysia.
Russia can destroy USA for 5 minits, but Russia didn`t.

 

I don't need Nike either, I was just giving an example of how much what you think is a "simulation" is actually producing economically.

But for the last time: WHAT ARE WE SIMULATING? Japan? Russia? Who? As far as I'm aware, the only people who are simulating are those who are illegally repuducing copyrighted American products in places like Russia and China.

 

the USA stole inventions by destroying the economies of other countries, including the Russian Empire and Third Reich and USSR, and thus forcing there scientists to seek employment elsewhere.

 

My mother lived in USSR and she was better informed about internal events in USSR that you (american every historian) did.
You know nothing about Russia.

 

Okay, first, 4 years is a long time. A LONG TIME. After we dropped those bombs on Japan, the world was stunned. We'd destroyed entire cities! I've read up on it, and world leaders, including the soviets, would have been pretty willing to do much of anything.

Second, I was referring to the time when we were the only nation with nukes when I said we could put are flag anywhere. All those wars came afterwords.

Finally, Russia couldn't DESTROY us as many of your missiles (about 95%] would be shot down by our computers. It would also take much longer the five minutes for any warhead bearing rocket to reach us.

The only reason Russia didn't attack was because immediately after there's be scores of nuclear rockets sent by us straight at the Kremlin, and that's exactly the opposite of what your power hungry dictators want.

 

Why? Was your mother the Soviet Premier's wife or something?
This is pathetic. You seem to be living in denial of your country's past. The USSR restricted free speech, so people are not going to be informed. By contrast, my Internet is unrestricted, and there is a general consensus among all historians, not just Americans, that this stuff happened.

 

In that `long` time USSR had 5 000 000 soldiers about Berlin and a few american A-bombs could do nothing with this power.
Russia is very very very very big country and no american airplane could fly over through such big distance.
USA nad NO real chance to apply `big stick`...

 

How did we destroy the economy of the USSR? We wanted them to stop communist policies which we knew would doom them economically, and they insisted on keeping them. They destroyed their own economy, give me a break!

 

There are other ways to restricted your mind.