USA Preparing to Attack Russia

War is good for profits. Especially Lockheed and Boeing who are number 1 and 2 among War Profiteers.
Nearly any highly electronic bomb or missile fired needs to be replaced. At whose profits! And whose costs?
The A-10 Warthogs major problem is it is build independently from Lockheed and Boeing!

Eisenhower's original phrase was, "Military - Industrial - Government Complex" !
Ike accepted the editing of, Military - Industrial Complex keeping gov't out of the phrase but oh so guilty.

How much do you suppose Boeing and Lockheed finance politically motivated activities?
And PAC's too. ​

And that, boys and girls, is why,
War We Must! ​

No Truman Senate investigation of War profiteers.
Obama, Advisers, Congress people, Congress advisors all duplicitous in, "War We Must!".

How to fix or do YOU deny the problem?
Wanna have a war, bring back the draft!

Over 9 months deployment in any location by Executive activity should
initiate Draft Registered persons induction into the armed forces.
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Moi

r > g

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Links to 2 examples of Not America's Interests Activities
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=437971&page=4&p=1066715029#post1066715029
http://www.politicalforum.com/showthread.php?t=437971&page=4&p=1066721358#post1066721358
Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic,
regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.​

 

I'm not a leftist and I like most of your posts...but we have quite a few Russian posters on here, and, again, considering how paranoid Russia is, it's not a good idea IMO to have a misleading title like that. Russia is, after all, a nuclear power.

 

It was said that the only US President who did not wage war was a democrat.
http://www.theelders.org/article/only-us-president-who-didnt-wage-war

The combustible mix of plunging commodity prices, significant opposition to the Iran deal, and the likelihood that a Republican will be the next U.S. president has set the stage for the distinct possibility that the U.S. will once again become engaged in a major military conflict. Since America’s founding, the country has been involved in a total of 16 wars, and Republicans have been president 10 out of the 16 times, so there is an historical predisposition for Republicans to become involved in wars more than Democrats.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/daniel-wagner/a-republican-president-an_b_7932048.html

I think it depends who will win this coming November elections.

 

Sorry merwen for my previous post, ot was a bit overreactive, but havent VP bidens comments already done that?

 

I posted the Charlie Rose interview for you two days ago. There are consequences to hacking US companies.....

 

For who?

 

For Iran, China, Russia and North Korea.. The four hackers.

 

Werent you guys the one requiring proof before you attack another country?

 

That was the point in the video. They have proof and have been able to track these hacking activities in real time since 2014.. How many times do I need to tell you that?

 

This is a vast over exaggeration. If we prepared for war with Russia, I would have been mobilized a while ago.

 

Cyber attack.

 

A youtube video isnt proof margot. Prove to me Russia did this as opposed to anonymous.

 

The US has engaged in several cyber attacks against Iran, the most famous being the Stuxnet attack but there were others. Indeed, the US and the Israelis were the ones who started it. While Iran is accused of several cyber attacks against the US and US interests, including the US oil company in Saudi Arabia (Aramco), things have cooled down on the cyber warfare front since the nuclear deal. See How Nuclear Deal Has Cooled Down Iran-US Cyber War.

 

The US government reorganized the CIA, FBI, legal beagles and computer people so they communicate with each other.. and it has been successful.

John Carlin is assistant attorney general for national security.

 

I was thinking, maybe it will be interesting to read people, far away from the computer. Who knows about the hack only from the movies

Although I'm not a hacker, but I rented four servers abroad. Two in Germany (Hetzner and Vultr), the Netherlands (DigitalOcean, Amssterdam) and Canada (CloudAtCost, Ontario). If I was engaged in hacking, I could have any of them break into someone else's private computer or server.

Well, for example, in South Africa. With him - somewhere else, say, China. From there - in Brazil. And so the chain until I had not bothered.

Naturally, I would never leave the log.

After the hack I would like to able to quickly track down only to the last server (in our case - in Brazil). But that is no reason to blame hacking Brazil. Because the hacker would have lived in Russia Even if I was so sloppy that would have left traces of work on computer in Brazil, then to find them, it would be required to carry out police work in Brazil. Then - in China. Then - South Africa. Finally, in Canada or Holland ... But somewhere along the path of the chain would be broken. For example, because I would have addressed through technology, such as i2p. Or because China would not betray the United States information on their computers. Neither qualified hacker will not apply to hack computers directly. And it is impossible to rapidly open the work in other countries, even if the information was left for it.

In reality, hackers are caught not tracking logs on the servers, and their activities outside of the virtual world. As they use stolen credit cards. By slip in social networks and so on.

If someone says to you right after hacking that it has found the hacker, then or the hacker the full idiot (then it is unclear how he has cracked well protected system), or is a lie.

Therefore when say that correspondence has been cracked from Russia and it is clear at once, it either a lie, or the inexperienced beginner was a hacker, and the post system hasn't been protected at all (for example, the password on access was "12345" ). But in this case anyone could crack on own initiative, it is strange to believe that the Kremlin for serious breakings will employ so inexperienced hacker. Even I, in lack of practical experience, could reach someone else's computers, without having left any marks

 

The same fbi that didnt find any evidence to indict clinton despite the moutain of evidence they found? You need a reputable source which cant inude the fbi while comey is in charge. Hes on the clinton payroll. Where is that proof russia was behind this besides obamas team of corrupt (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s?

 

Hillary is more oriented toward war--sneaky war--than Trump. She is a Neocon. That is why the elite are supporting her over Trump. They make easier money during wartimes, in weapons sales and rebuilding of infrastructure.

 

I don't know I'm not quite really sure, but I'm sure about Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld.
But it's quite difficult to deploy a tiger into a lion's den, either of the two could kill each other, unlike the war in Iraq when it was a tiger against the dogs. It's different this time and an act of war against Russia is somehow placing the nation and the rest of the world in peril, the last thing a neocon would do.

 

I am not aware he said anything of this sort.

There is absolutely no reason to attack Russia.

AA

 

The neo cons mentioned war a few years ago when they started the friction with Russia. Seems they don't care... but then why would they? We're as much 'untermenshens' as the people in the Middle East to them.

 

You're right, we're not going to attack Russia. We don't have to. We're going to use the fools in Eastern Europe as cannon fodder, so why bother. We can just sit back and sell them arms and make money.

When they self destruct as they did in the last century, then our corporations can go in and buy up everything and we'll be rich, rich, rich again... that is unless Trump becomes president and ruins it for us.

 

Russia has been hacking the DNC, Hillary, etc etc.

then giving the info to Wikileaks, to try to affect the election.


Russia must be punished.

 

You really have a one sided view of this don't you?

AA

 

No dogs are man's best friend and don't forget about it. some even do kissing and share food.
After mentioning I think they became pensive and somehow some retorted about the velocity of ICBM warheads and the myriads of nuclear submarine bearing that famous red star roaming around the Atlantic.

 

How many Americans really are nationalistic little children that buy corporate and government media and press propaganda like spoon feeding a baby? Seriously.

The USA tries to influence other countries including their elections ALL THE TIME. The American government including the President OPENLY tried to influence the vote on BREXIT (failing to do so).

It is so ridiculous to rate "RUSSIA IS TRYING TO INFLUENCE OUR ELECTION!" and the declaring we should impose sanctions and go to war! Those damn Russians! OBVIOUSLY THEY ARE WHO ARE EXPOSING THE TRUTH ABOUT THE DNC AND CLINTON!

What is incredible is how correct the DNC, OBAMA, and CLINTON are with their belief that many Americans actually are so naive, so mindless, so submissive betas they will actuall buy this.

While there is no proof Russia hacked anything, so what if they did? Of course they want to influence the American election. We try like hell to influence other country's elections. We'll even start bombing and doing assassinations to influence other countries elections and selection of leadership.

I think it would be fair to say we tried to "influence" the government of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria by bombing the hell out of them, invasions, killing tens of thousands or more people, having their leaders killed, hunting them down and shooting them. Having the hung. Stabbed to death in the street.

We openly tried to influence the re-election of Putin. The re-election of the leader of Israel. NO COUNTY ON EARTH tries to influence the selections and elections in other countries than the USA. No other countries spies on other countries more than the USA either.

The corporate propaganda media and press - which in no way is the former free independent press and media - accurately predicted that so many Americans - particularly Democrats are so gullible, so easily controlled by propaganda, that they actually could get them diverting from the truths of the emails to raging the Russians did it because "OMG THEY ARE TRYING TO INFLUENCE OUR ELECTION" and that THE overwhelming most important issue of the election and the US government is whether Trump tried to kiss a woman and she rejected him 10, 20 years ago.

I had no idea so MANY Democrats truly were THIS much mindless drones of the Democratic Party and global super rich elites as this like they are puppets on strings.

Hillary openly promises to have the USA military shooting down Russian aircraft - and claims Russia hacked her people's emails. Yeah, so what? What do those emails say? That's all that matters. If they had a secret video one of their agents made of Hillary Clinton slugging Bill Clinton and hitting secret service agents, of her using racial slurs etc I'm confident Russia would release those too.