Vaccination, have you received it?

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  1. gfm7175

    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    Fine by me...

    Get it to the people who both want it and need it the most first, and if people wish to be "morons" and not get it, then leave them be in their "stupidity".

    I don't want it, nor do I ever want it, so focus on the people who actually want it.
     
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    gfm7175 Well-Known Member

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    This is what I don't understand about the mouthpieces (leftists) for "unity" and "peace" and "togetherness" and "equality" and "anti-racism" and whatever else...

    THEY are largely the ones who are dividing people... THEY are largely the ones who are causing the violence... THEY are largely the ones who are the racists...

    Pushing minorities to the head of the line IS RACISM... That quite literally is a RACIST POLICY... Yet, that sort of thing does not get called out for what it is, and just gets swept under the rug. It is also anything BUT "equality", as those minorities are being placed above non-minorities. That type of behavior (along with the "boy who cried wolf" style accusations of "racism!" and etc) only causes division and hatred.

    A LOT of division and hatred would INSTANTLY go away if people would just turn off the mainstream news and get off of social media. There is a reason that I have dubbed those things the Ministry of Societal Manipulation.
     
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    Don't be so filled with fear. You can do this.

    Peace
     
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    Largely? Not even close. My God, you have never heard Trump or saw his actions?
    You are simply being disingenuous in this blurb.

    I don't think I'd call it racist but I sure am not happy about it.
     
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    Tell that to the people on their knees begging to get this vaccine because they're afraid of an illness that typically presents itself as a mild flu... THEY are the ones filled with fear.

    I'm just aware that I have a well functioning immune system and that I have no need for a vaccine, let alone being a test subject for an experiment.
     
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    Yes, largely. It is largely the political left who is causing all of the issues that they are bitching about.

    Trump is not the issue. He is rather the poster child who gets blamed for any issue that arises. To a leftist, Trump is "Satan".

    It is racism.. In this case, it is superiority of a particular group or groups of people due to their skin color that forms the compositional error.
     
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    obviously

    all moral, ethical, well meaning people acknowledge this

    it is the greedy, ignorant, selfish insecure and uneducated that worship the orange idol.
     
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    so you feel 2 million plus deaths a year is more appropriate than masks, social distancing and vaccinations. I am more moral than you and will use laws to compel you to comply wit the greater good dictates.
     
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    No, only people who are enslaved to their MoSM mind masters acknowledge that...

    I don't know of anybody who worships Trump. Personally, the only entity of whom I worship is the Christian God.
     
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    So because YOU deem a certain process important, and using a fictitious number to support your demand, people should be coerced to comply.

    That sounds vaguely familiar....
     
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    OK, you got a sincere chuckle out of me.
     
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    There are not 2 million plus deaths caused by covid. The all cause mortality rate for 2020 is right in line with prior years, showing that this is all a scam to get people to give up their freedoms to the government. Shifting flu deaths, pneumonia deaths, heart disease deaths, cancer deaths, etc. over to "covid deaths" are not deaths due to covid... This is further explained here:
    https://politiplex.freeforums.net/thread/78/covid-19-deaths-debunked

    No... you are not going to play the emotionally driven "you are heartless and want people to die" card on me... What about all of the people who are losing their livelihoods over the lockdowns and other mandates on businesses (max capacities and such)? People need to feed their families, dude (whether that's business owners, employees, or otherwise)... These mandates are also messing with people's minds, and causing depression/suicide/etc... What about those lives?? I can play that game too, dude...

    Masks do not stop viruses. The pores of a mask are MUCH LARGER than the size of the virus. My source for this claim is the engineering specs of the N95 mask, however most people are wearing around masks that have much larger pores than N95 masks have, and are not wearing them properly, and are taking them off for eating/drinking/etc., as if covid magickally "takes a break" during such times... The whole mask wearing thing is purely for compliance and fear mongering purposes and nothing more.

    Social distancing does not stop a virus either. This is an airborne virus, so it is all over in the air wherever an infected person has breathed within the last many hours or longer. Staying six feet apart from any person you run into does absolutely nothing to protect you.

    I have no issues with vaccinations in and of themselves. However, since I have a well functioning immune system, I see no reason to get vaccinated for a virus that typically presents itself as a mild flu. I'd much rather get the natural exposure and let my immune system do its thing naturally rather than artificially messing around with it with an untested "vaccine" that we do not know how it will affect people in the long run. If this disease had a 25% fatality rate, it would be one thing, but when it has as low of a fatality rate as it does (even WITH the fudged numbers), I see no reason to rush to get vaccinated with an experimental vaccine.

    No, you aren't. You are not "holier than thou".

    Ahhhh, the ways of Satan I see... Satan is all about compulsion and dictatorship rather than free will and self governance (aka, the way of Jesus Christ).

    Define "greater good". "Good" is a subjective term.
     
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    Where is the problem if someone doesn't want to get a vaccine against SARS-Cov-2?
    Nature will do one of its most imporant jobs: we call it "natural selection".

    A part of the population will naturally survive to Covid-19 [like it happened in occasion of the Spanish Flu], an other part of the population won't survive. The individuals who will get the vaccine, even if in the second part of the population, will survive as well.

    It's a choice. Nothing else.
     
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    don't post as an idiot

    we had mass graves being dug in NYC and CA when we did not yet understand the importance of masking, distancing and closing things down.

    nothing fictitious about teh numbers I gave you.

    and yes, we all have an obligation to subjugate our personal freedoms for the greater good. Don't post as an ********.
     
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    This is too ****ed up to warrant a response.

    This is typical Trumpist ****, you just make stuff up and challenge others to disprove it. **** you, play this childish, ignorant, dangerous game by yourself.
     
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    You used the number 2,000,000, with no support. If they can't be supported, then they are fictitious.

    Unclaimed COVID patients were buried in mass graves. How many people? Roughly 1,300.

    No, we don't 'all have an obligation to subjugate our freedoms for the greater good'. Your definition of the 'greater good' is not the same as mine. Not all people suffer the same ailment as those with age or underlying conditions. Not all areas are as congested as NYC, and have less social interaction as the pit called NYC.

    As to your juvenile name calling and inability to debate or discuss the subject, you have yourself a nice day.
     
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    No, this is just a fit of rage on your part since I have directly and intellectually challenged your "sacred" unrationalized beliefs and you happen to not have enough knowledge (or even a free thinking mind for that matter) to respond to any of the fully rationalized points that I have brought up to you.

    IOW, I'm not playing along with unrationalized leftist bullshit and you don't like that, plain and simple.
     
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    Bingo. (the rest of the post was good too)

    Such people (typically leftists) have given up their minds to the MoSM (Ministry of Societal Manipulation, which includes the mainstream media, fact checkers, big tech companies, and etc.)...

    Such people (who are no longer free thinkers) are now mentally enslaved to the MoSM and cannot be reasoned with.

    Notice how he was acting "holier than thou" towards me, yet he was simultaneously promoting the ways of Satan (compulsion, dictatorship) rather than the ways of Jesus (free will, self governance)?

    It gets quite comical sometimes, even though it is ultimately saddening.
     
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    Name calling does not rationalize your point...

    MoSM fear mongering... nothing more.

    I already explained why these things do absolutely nothing to stop a virus, and you ignored me, so I will not repeat it again here.

    This does not stop a virus either, and it actually results in depression, suicide, and loss of livelihood due to not being able to work, earn money, and provide for oneself and/or one's family. Completely ****ing over people's livelihoods is "important"?

    They are fictitious. Reclassifying deaths by other causes into "deaths by covid" is manipulative dishonesty.

    No, we don't. I do not take kindly to your advocating for Satanism, either.

    Define "greater good". "Good" is a subjective word. What is "good" in your mind might not be "good" in my mind.

    Insults are not arguments, dude.
     
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    Why are Trumpists so deplorably ignorant and filthy liars
    My, my, you do post rather hysterically. Emotionally.

    Your "freedom" is an illusion. Why is this illusion so important to you?
     
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    If you ever post of reason I'll reply accordingly.
     
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    Again, today, a neighbor who is not eligible for the vaccine received it. His second does. He had the nerve to post it on Facebook.

    Not only are the wrong people allowed to receive the vaccine but people are cheating their asses off to get it.

    And what can be done? Not a damned thing.

    I will say this, between this Covid vaccination and Trumpism, I am totally changing who I get goods services and food from.
    Thank you Facebook for letting me know which of my neighbors are scum. I will not support scum.
     
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    And you still are so far off the mark. Try and pay attention to what is being discussed, and maybe you will actually learn something from the discussion.

    You consider posting facts as 'emotional', then perhaps you need to pay attention to what facts actually are. There seems to be a pattern in your responses, and they don't reflect well on you.

    Leave the assumptions and petty name calling aside, discuss the subject, or leave it be.
     
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    As of 20 February Mrs. Hays and I have both received two doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
    Our primary health care provider, Riverside Medical Group, did a magnificent job.
     
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