VERITAS OBTAINS RECORDING OF CALL BETWEEN WIKILEAKS JULIAN ASSANGE & LAWYER IN CLINTON'S STATE DEP..

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  1. camp_steveo

    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    VIDEO:
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/2N8rUpGJ574/

    https://www.projectveritas.com/news...ases-audio-of-assange-warning-u-s-government/

    Trump should pardon Julian Assange. He has been locked up, either in the Ecuadorian embassy under political asylum, or now in a British prison, for several years awaiting an extradition trial scheduled for January 2021.

    Here is the full call:


    People from both sides should support a pardon for Assange. He warned Clinton's State Department.

    Wikileaks is protected by the 1st Amendment, if you still believe in that.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    This tape proves what many of us have said for years--Assange is innocent of any crime. He and Wikileaks have gone to great lengths to protect individuals within the intelligence and military communities.

    If Trump has one moral bone in his body he will pardon Assange and Snowden. Both men have incurred great personal penalties for exposing the crimes of the US government.

    It is every citizen's obligation to expose and condemn the crimes of government. These men are heroes.
     
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    I oppose pre-emptive pardons. Strongly. Let him face a jury of his peers, so we all can come to our own conclusions, and the justice system serves its purpose. Pardons are meant to correct a wrong. They're not intended to be an instrument in judging right and wrong.`
     
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    camp_steveo Well-Known Member

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    Assange has already served a lengthy sentence. Let him go.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    That was his choice. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear. Obviously, if he were innocent, he wouldn't be absconding. He's a coward. He can stand trial or continue to hide. No freebies for cowards.
     
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    If he is innocent he is not eligible for a pardon.
     
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    This is the obvious reason to oppose pre-emptive pardons, but the American people are the ones getting shortchanged here. Whether Assange or Snowden are penalized is a minor point compared to the truth. The people are owed their day in court, and if we want to start normalizing pre-emptive pardons, then the recipients should be required to divulge the truth, either through detailed confessions or, if they are actually innocent, through a court proceeding. Punishment can be waived, but I oppose waiving the entire process pre-emptively.

    They may be innocent, they may be guilty. One thing's for sure, they're frightened. They appear to be cowards to me.
     
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    Correct a wrong...but can’t determine right or wrong.

    A bit logically inconsistent.
     
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    Spim Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Assange and Snowden too.

    Edit. Saw that you mentioned him, so ya, were on the same page.
     
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    Veritas.....pretty unreliable source, if fact have they ever put out anything factual?
     
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    Not at all. Innocence or guilt is to be determined by a court of law, by a jury of one's peers. The system isn't foolproof, which is where a pardon is warranted.

    A pre-emptive pardon is making a determination of innocence, before a court has made a determination of guilt, indeed, before any charges have been filed. This isn't correcting a wrong, but usurping the duties of the justice system including those of prosecutors, judges and juries. It's an abuse of the pardoning power.
     
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    Linking to Bitchute?:roflol:

    B/c YouTube banned the Conspiratorial BS?:bored:

    Then, you expect people to sit through a 75 minute phone call that is over 9 years old?

    You have got to be kidding.

    The "Audio" has DEEPFAKE Written all over it.

    Anyway, in the future, it may be prudent to post these Conspiracy Threads in the proper section:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?forums/conspiracy-theories.63/

    Nothing personal, just a friendly suggestion.

    Also, if Trump is going to pardon Assange, he only has 31 days left to do it.
     
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    Sounds like assange throwing someone under the bus to protect himself.
     
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    So then by correcting the wrong, the pardon is inherently determining right vs wrong.

    It’s usurping the justice systems decision, over ruling it and determining right vs wrong.

    You aren’t being logically consistent.
     
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    You don't file an appeal after being found not guilty, and you don't pardon people for crimes they haven't committed. That you can't keep up is going to consistently leave you behind.
     
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    You can pardon people for crimes they haven’t committed if its likely going to be unjust trial.
     
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    This post is typical of an ignorant american who knows absolutely nothing about the Assange case from the beginning. Ignorance rules in these United States, and that's the way our overlords like it.
     
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    For the independent thinkers amongst us, we have been paying attention since the Assange story broke all those years ago. We were paying attention when the Snowden story broke all those years ago.

    We don't need some talking head on TV to inform us, we don't need some authoritarian to tell us what or how to think, but it appears you do.

    Who gives you your list of "approved sources" that you are allowed to read?

    Assange and Snowden and Manning and so many more have exposed the crimes of government. Why is that wrong in your world?
     
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    In prison without a crime.
     
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    LOL! I'm not a republican, conservative or trump the loser suppoerter so NO ONE tells me what to read. I DO how ever have a skill unknown and or used by the aforementioned groups, critical thinking.
    'Veritas project' is and always has been a joke, in fact I believe the clown that heads it is a convicted felon. That you claim to be an 'independent thinker' and still swallow the crap veritas puts out says a lot about you and your 'independence'.
     
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    If you were really a critical thinker you would be able to explain how exposing the crimes of government is itself a crime. If you were really a critical thinker, AND WELL INFORMED, you would know that Assange was framed in Sweden to satisfy US interests, and that he was betrayed by the incoming Ecuadorian president after having been protected by the previous president Correa.

    But you're not. You tell yourself you're a critical thinker, but then you buy into every single bit of propaganda offered by mainstream.

    You're still new here, so maybe one day you will demonstrate that you actually ARE a critical thinker. Until then sir, you come across as an apologist for the status quo. :peace:
     
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    Could you please point to and quote any post of mine where I said ANYTHING, anything at all about assange or snowden?
    Your little screed there is amusing but way out of line and based on your blind obedience to your media and the failed thought that anyone that doesn't fall in line with you is against you.
    If you want me or anyone else with a brain to fall in line with you then you had better up your game and find sources that are at the very least on this planet and not the made up one you all live on.
    Please try and pay attention to what is written and not what you WANT it say and stop putting words or thoughts into other people mouths, you will get a lot further in life.
     
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    The thread title regards actions of Julian Assange. Pardon me, I thought you were commenting on the subject matter of the thread.

    Getting to know you better with each awkward post.

    You denigrate Veritas and are offended when I assume you were thereby suggesting Assange guilty of some crime.

    You're starting off on the right foot, I can see that. :lol:
     
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    Again, read what is written not what you WANT it to say, it's really easy.
    Your source is a joke, it always has been a joke, there fore the thread is a joke.
     
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    Critical thinkers don't falsely call someone a convicted felon.
     

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