Videos show NYPD officers being doused with water, pelted with buckets while responding to calls

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  1. KJohnson

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    When researching how long Mayor De Blasio has left to his term in office, I was shocked to discover, he's currently serving his second term! The people actually voted for him twice!

    This proves the mental apptitude of New Yorkers seems extremely lacking which is disconcerting to say the least.

    And since we're seeing this behavior in all liberal strongholds across the nation, I think it's past time we find out what's causing this craziness ASAP before we lose this country altogether. And therefore, when trying to get to the root, one would assume one or more of the following theories must apply.

    1. Liberals are receiving extreme weapons grade type brainwashing ideology that seems to only work on them and not conservatives, which makes one wonder HOW? Personally, I think it's due to colleges and universities using our kids as psychological guinea pigs. I believe for decades they've been pushing socialism/communism for the purpose of eventually throwing out the constitution completely and they're almost there!

    Another scenario could be due to corruption:

    2. DeBlasio winning not just one but a second term didn't actually happen and was due to election fraud.

    3. Main stream media is brainwashing with liberal ideology using bogus polls to convince people they should think like the many instead of the few. Again based on fake made up numbers.

    If not stemming from psychology and it's physical:

    4. Are drugs added to our water and food supplies either done intentionally or by accident, such as being flushed down toilets the cause?

    Regardless of the reason, one thing is crystal clear, we need to find what's causing it and American's psyche to derail our government before it's too late!

    Viahttps://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_de_Blasio

    "He was the Democratic Party nominee in the 2013 election to become Mayor of New York City. On November 5, 2013, De Blasio won the mayoral election by a landslide, receiving over 73% of the vote. He is the first Democratic mayor of the city in nearly 20 years.[2]

    De Blasio was re-elected as Mayor in the 2017 mayoral election with 66.5% of the vote.[3] On January 1, 2018, BERNIE SANDERS sworn-in De Blasio in his second mayoral inauguration as Mayor.[4]

    On May 16, 2019, De Blasio announced his candidacy for President for the 2020 election.[5]"

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cb...eing-attacked-with-buckets-harlem-2019-07-23/

    I'M SURE THIS WILL GET MOVED AND BURIED in some other off the wall forum as usual, but the reason for addressing it here is because police are being disrespected daily now and there's a push to abolish ICE which shows our society is changing and not for the better.
     
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  2. Doug1943

    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A long-term reversal of the trends you identify here is unlikely.
    What people who believe in the original American experiment -- I do not say 'conservatives' because that would be too narrow -- now need to do is to start thinking about how to deal with a United States in which the national majority will, as a routine and for the indefinite future, support and empower the De Blasios of the world. The Supreme Court will hold back the tide for a while, but mortality will take its toll, and a President DeBlasio or Omar or Sharpton will put in different judges.

    I propose two lines of defense:

    (1) Try to strengthen state and local control. For example, push hard for charter schools which are not dominated by leftist indoctrinators. Try to advance federalism -- let California do as it likes, so long as Idaho can as well. This means recognizing that the American republic is dead and will not be revived. Its decline will really become apparent when China emerges as the world's dominant military and economic power, which will certainly occur within the lifetime of most Americans now living. If we can negotiate our slide off the top of the hill gracefully, it will allow us to concentrate on internal affairs.

    (2) Prepare for the dissolution of the Union, hopefully peacefully. One part will become a kind of Brazil -- light-skinned liberal elites living in gated communities, hoping to direct enough welfare to the sullen masses surrounding them to avoid being devoured, while studying Spanish so they can understand their servants. The other part will hopefully retain the original American spirit, including that most American of ideas, judging people by the content of their character and not the color of their skin. Progressives should be happy to see us go.

    This is decades away, if indeed it occurs, but should be a topic of discussion now. There are all kinds of things to think about, such as the desirability of a corridor to the sea and where it might be, the possiblity of an alliance with those wishing to re-unite with Mexico against the centralizers, the desirability of borders marked by geographical features, etc.

    One way to facilitate this is for people who don't want to live in the future world where the police take their orders from Anti-Fa to begin concentrating in the future 'Old Republic' states. This isn't something that can be done overnight ... but if it becomes a widespread idea, then people who are naturally in the process of moving, say when they retire, will move out of AntiFa land naturally. Call it 'Old American Zionism', and recall that for many decades Zionism was an improbable idea, supported only by a few eccentrics, until catastrophic political events made it a realistic alternative.

    At one point some Libertarians hoped to concentrate in, I think, Vermont. They should think about Montana instead.

    Of course, since all serious matters in human disputes are settled by blood and iron, citizens of the future 'Original America' should do everything necessary to make sure they are supplied with and knowledgeable in the use of the tools that are the final arbiters of national boundaries. Of course buy that AR15 and a thousand rounds of ammunition, but, if you can and haven't already, take advantage of the opportunities to learn about things like fields of fire, dead ground, windage and elevation, secure communications, what to do for a sucking chest wound ... ideally by enlisting for a period of time in your nation's armed forces.
     
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    Some democrats, most progressives and probably all de Blasio supporters believe the water throwers in the videos are the real victims and the cops are merely looking for a reason to victimize them. de Blasio has even cautioned his kid on the racist and evil tendencies of New York's policemen.

    These videos show that, with de Blasio's blessing, the police can be disrespected, attacked, and in a few instances murdered and it will be accepted as long as the cops don't do anything in return, then it becomes the cop's fault. On top of the disrespect, the water throwers don't seem concerned about a possible arrest ruining their employment prospects or getting their graduate school scholarships revoked.
     
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    De Blasio didn't exactly bless this behavior. He actually said the right form of words. But this is a well-known ploy: you can read about the pogroms in Russia ... the armed authorities would appear on horseback after a few hours of rape and murder, half-heartedly chase the drunken mobs for a few yards, shake their heads, say a few words. Everyone understood where their sympathies were.

    The self-control of those policemen was astonishing. Anyone who has not seen a video of this should see it now. Of course the liberals are justifying it: here's the good old New York Times. There have been some arrests -- Black Lives Matter and progressives everywhere will no doubt rally to their defense.
     
  5. KJohnson

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    Unfortunately, I believe it's inevitable as well but also think if we wake enough people up, it can be delayed a while. I also believe humans are becoming more sociopathic by the day which is probably due to the drug factor.

    Scientists claimed in articles a couple decades ago that they'd found babies born of crack mothers had a high tendency of sociopathy and were completely lacking in empathy. If so that would explain why we're seeing so much of this one sided behavior with many like Antifa. It also explains all liberals who only believe in double standards believing their way or the highway. Those who refuse to compromise or find middle ground. All crime should be okay and on the table if it suits THEIR needs.

    Characteristics such as Integrity and compassion are becoming passe.
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Consider the following modification, not to your views, but to your vocabulary:

    There are people who consider themselves 'liberals' -- not in the 19th Century sense of 'classical liberal' but as liberals in the true American sense -- liberals in the FDR/JFK tradition. These people are not necessarily happy with anti-Fa, open borders, flag burning, Al Sharpton. They are NOT conservatives, but they would like to 'conserve' the America they grew up in, and to a large extent, helped make. (Let's face it -- it was liberals, with almost no support from and sometimes opposition from, conservatives, who led the Civil Rights revolution, finally fulfilling the promise of an America open to all.) It would be foolish in the extreme to lump these people in with the 'progressives', at least not without a fight.

    Similarly, there are sections of the Black and Hispanic communities for whom the idea of living in a hustler-dominated culture -- which is what progressive white guilt will lead to, just check out how the Black Panthers led the progressives of their day around by the nose -- fills them with horror. Black policemen and military people, for example, as well as the sincerely religious.

    If we ever come to a split, we must move heaven and earth to make sure that our 'Old America' is fully open to them at every level. The Great Temptation for people on the Right, resisting the race-baiting and 'white-privilege' nonsense of the Left, is to start believing what the Left says about them, and begin to adopt a 'no-enemies-to-the-right' attitude towards the really ugly racist elements that exist in American society. We must keep a rock firmly on the hole which these people will try to come out of.
     
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    That's not the liberals of today. What you describe is a moderate or libertarian. By todays standards that type of ideology is leaning more right. Liberals of today are moving more left by the minute into socialist territory.
     
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    That's assault and they should have shot them....the end
     
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    Doug1943 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, you are correct. This is why the word "progressive" has been resurrected.

    At the beginning of the 20th century, it meant a kind of modernizing reformer; then, after World War II, it was a euphemism for a sympathyzer of the Communist Party and the Soviet Union.

    Then it more or less faded from sight, now to be brought up again to refer to people who want a vaguely-outlined but very fundamental transformation in American society. It seems to be tied up with 'identity politics' and white guilt and the abandonment of some of "old liberalism's" core values, like Free Speech, and root-and-branch rejection of the actual history of America -- founded after all by racist slaveowning homophobes. Thus we have that school board in San Francisco painting over the mural with George Washington, and the college in Colorado issuing a speech directive that warns against using the word 'American'.

    Of course it's a step-by-step process, and the people who are making the transition are hardly even aware of it.

    Nonetheless, there will be some people who resist this change, and remain true to the original values of American liberalism. They can be allies in certain situations, and we certainly should not speed of the process of their transformation by writing them off as already doomed.

    It's a well-known phenomenon to social psychologists: tribalism, the very strong tendency to identify with your own group and demonize outsiders.
    Here's a good discussion of it, by a liberal academic, Jonathan Haidt. And here is Amy Chua's take on it. (Anything by both of these people, who have escaped from the paralyzing group-think of American academic social science, is worth reading. )
     
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    Right out of the ANTIFA handbook
     
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    :bored:

    You're about 4 DAY LATE...

    With this REDUNDANT Thread...

    You can find my On-Topic Comments...HERE:

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/nypd-officers-doused-with-water-in-harlem.559184/ :bored:
     
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    Its happening in Atlanta too. Committing an assault against an officer is a pretty boneheaded thing to do. People can attempt to hide behind the "relax its just water" defense if they like but on the street a police officer may choose to respond to an unknown substance being thrown at them with force and they would likely be justified in doing so.
     
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    Leftists come up with new words to describe themselves when the word they're currently using becomes a liability. This happened with "liberal" when it became synonymous with high taxes, soft on crime, weak national defense, sympathy for criminals, etc. Now they're all "progressives". Americans will catch on and leftists will be searching for a word to replace "progressive" in 20 or 30 years.

    Meanwhile, "conservative" never goes out of style.
     
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    Here's a dark thought (progressives look away now):

    If, as any decent person hopes never happens, the US at some point in the future comes apart, it will probably do so on 'Old Republic' vs 'Left-Progressive' lines, with the 'Progressives' initially getting the support of the bulk of the Hispanic and Black population.

    The problem is, there are no natural borders for such a split. Serious ethnic diversity often leads to splits or attempted splits in states, and where there are no natural borders, where the diversity is interpenetrated, you get very ugly developments, since each side strives to control territory where some of its people live, which is bad news for the people living there who are on the 'other' side. A careful study of the former Yugoslavia as it disintegrated in the 1990s will repay the time taken for it.

    If the US descends into civil war, the way the allegiance of the men who carry guns as a profession -- the military and the police-- is going to be important, maybe even decisive. Both sides will appeal for their support . A significant number of both professions are non-white, and so might naturally tend towards the 'progressive' side. But there is a contradiction. Progressives, and especially the Hard Leftists who set the political direction among them, hate the military and the police, who embody all the virtues they loathe.

    So the anti-progressive 'Old Republic' supporters need to exacerbate this contradiction. They should do all in their power to make sure that the ranks of the military and the police know that the Left hate them, that they rejoice in incidents like this one, that their instincts and sympathies are with the cop-killers and the flag burners and the statue desecrators. And that this hatred extends to non-whites who wear the uniform. Although this is probably kicking in an open door, we want police and military personnel to harbor a deep, viserceral, burning hatred of the progressive Left.

    Year after year, however possible, get this message across. For instance, when Leftists express their joy at the humiliation of those police officers in New York, consider ways to publicize their views among the police. There are several online forums for police officers which non-policemen can join, for example, and similar ones used mainly by military personnel.

    Here are four contributions to this task which will be going on to some of those forums, to make sure that our police know how the 'progressives' feel about them. They probably know already, but it doesn't hurt to keep reminding them: the Left want you dead and would laugh if they read that you were killed by the sort of human garbage they love. Too bad these four people can't be dumped into the middle of South Chicago at midnight and left to find their way home, with no interference by the police.
     

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