War on Christmas? Georgia school confiscates students' Christmas cards

http://walshfreedom.com/2013/12/one-georgia-school-district-censors-christmas-cards/

The teachers at Brooklet Elementary School in Brooklet, Georgia, have long had a tradition of displaying Christmas cards in the hallways of the school. But this year, as students returned to Brooklet after the Thanksgiving break, those cards were nowhere to be found. They had been removed from view and relocated behind an office door, where only the teachers can see them. FOX News’ Todd Starnes reports: .. their teachers’ Christmas cards had been removed – under orders from the Georgia school’s administration. Robb Kicklighter’s wife is a third grade teacher at the school. He said many teachers are disgruntled by the school’s decision to confiscate the Christmas cards.

The Christmas card censorship comes as the Bulloch County Board of Education cracks down on religious expression in their schools. Teachers have been ordered to remove any religious icons or items from their classrooms – ranging from Bibles to Christian music. Teachers have also been instructed to avoid student-led prayers at all costs. Should they be in a room where students are praying, teachers have been ordered to turn their backs on their students. Residents and supporters of Brooklet have created a Facebook page to organize a response to the board of education’s directive.

Political correctness makes baby Jesus cry It's pretty sad the level they stoop to just to avoid 'offending' people with absolutely no lives who only feel relevant when they're kvetching about how 'offended' they are.

 

Seems the nations message is clear enough, keep your god at home & out of taxpayer funded government property. Why is that so hard to do?

 

Why is Christmas such a problem? It shouldn't be.. There are children of many faiths in any given public school.

In KSA the Muslims wished us Merry Christmas and we wished them Happy Eid............

 

It's perfectly fine to allow 'God' and religion on taxpayer funded properly - if the nation's not in tune with the founders and the Bill of Rights, that's it's problem.

If anything, banning the Christmas cards is unconstitutional since it's 'prohibiting the free exercise thereof'

 

It's a subtle attempt to 'get the religion of atheism' into public schools.

Basically militant atheists want to classify atheism as 'not a religion', while ignoring the intent of the founders by distorting 'separation' to = "censorship of religion on public grounds" (despite the founders having no problem with public prayer held on govt grounds)

- this way they get while simultaneously getting to - essentially giving them a monopoly under the 'not a religion' clause (despite atheism being recognized as a religion by the US Supreme Court for the purpose of 1st Amendment protection)

 

Atheism is a religion?????? I thought it was the lack of religion..

 

xmas is no problem as long as you keep it at home in the prayer closet. I don't need a religion shoved in my face. Maybe the kids should be allowed to bring their favorite porn pics to schools to decorate the halls. Perhaps Christos would get it if we passed laws to allow teachers & professors equal time on the Sunday pulpits of America.

 

That's what it's 'branded as', but it's a de facto religion, at least as practiced by the militant ones

Atheism's a lack of belief 'in a god' (not a religion) - but it's possible to have a secular religion

 

It's no problem in schools, loud, and out, and in your face - the opinion of a few whiny atheists who make up less than 5% of the population isn't important to America

You can have it shoved in your face and like it If you don't like it, move to North Korea - nah nah

Well if that's your thing, write to your Congressman to have them allow it - religious expression however is a guaranteed right under the 1st Amendment, and that includes on public grounds

It's militant atheists and whiners in general who don't get it, and just can't stand the fact that the Founders (even the ones who were atheist or agnostic) allowed expression of religion on public grounds as protected constitutional speech.

Whining about Xmas cards (which weren't even purchased with their tax dollars) is the only way that domr militant atheists can feel relevant, since even Hindus probably outnumber them in America (militant atheists are a laughing stock even within the mainstream atheist communities, who have no problem with Christmas).

 

In Everson v. Board of Education (1947), the Court drew on Founding Father Thomas Jefferson's correspondence to call for "a wall of separation between church and State". End of story.

The cards can be displayed in their homes, on the moon or a malt shop, just not on government property. Sorry!!

 

Then that means a kid can't bring a copy of "The God Delusion" to public school, because apparently "not censoring" a religious belief = "forcing students" to practice said belief

Therefore if a student brings a copy of a Richard Dawkins book to school on his own, this means the state is 'trying to force a religious belief' on students who (gasp) see the book and are too thinned skinned to ignore it and move on with their lives

 

The school, as a government institution, is not allowed to take part in religious activities. Promoting Christmas, or any other religious holiday violates the separation of church and state. Religion can not play a part in official school function.

 

You are no follower of the idol Jesus, so why do you care? Just because you didn't purchase my gun, doesn't mean you want it shoved in your face. LMAO!! I guess you wouldn't mind me coming over and running porn flicks on the wall of your house at night. This is really a good thread, because it shows how desperate christos are in America. How weak they are that they can't be without their symbols of religion. Sad really. All that BS about how they don't force their religion on others. LMAO!!!

 

Like I said, keep your god at home and their is no problem. My private property is lit up like a christmas tree & I will be playing xmas music for about a week before the big day for those people who stroll by. Its my property. The problem is you want to do your thing on the people's property.

 

Right, that means schools have to ban displays of atheism on public grounds (seeing as atheism is legally recognized as a religion by the Supreme court for 1st Amendment purposes) - that was my point

If a school allows a student to have a copy of Richard Dawkins' "God Delusion" in his locker, then this means the school is 'forcing atheism' on Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc students - therefore it must be censored

 

What whiners don't get is that there's 'no right not to be offended' in the Constitution

My house is my property, so that would violate trespassing laws. On the flip side if some city allowed people to host a 'nude artwork convention' in one of their public facilitates, that would be perfectly fine and there'd be no grounds to censor it just because "it offended some random person with too much time on his hands'

Whiners rely on mommy/daddy (including big daddy govt) to shelter them from every wittle thing that offends their delicate sensibilities - real men grow a pair and move on. i'm not skeered that "seeing a richard dawkins" book in a public school is going to 'brainwash me into becoming an atheist", so I could care less

No it shows how weak militant atheists are, that they're so insecure in their beliefs that 'seeing a Christmas cards' could have the power to 'convert them to Christianity'. If they're that weak in their belief, they might as well just become a Christian

"Not censoring" a religion doesn't "force you to practice the religion". Just like "not banning porn" doesn't "force me to become a pornstar" - what nonsense

The founders knew this and had no problem with public prayer on govt grounds. And real atheists like Thomas Paine had better things to do with their time than "whine" over how offended they were over seeing a Kindergartener's Christmas card (unlike these militant atheist tryhards apparently)

So long as a school isn't mandating religious activities or funding them directly, then I'd say they have a 1st Amendment right to allow students to express whatever religion they want (whether it's Christianity, Islam, Satanism, whatever)

 

And your point is what? If a student brings a Christmas card to school, that doesn't 'force you' to practice Christianity.

If you don't like it, look the other way. Quit trying to impose your 'morals' on others just because 'you find it offensive'

 

Off the school grounds, go for it!!!

 

Your rights end where mine begin. Thats why we have laws like Everson v. Board of Education (1947), the Court drew on Founding Father Thomas Jefferson's correspondence to call for "a wall of separation between church and State".

Interesting, Christos don't mind the law to make them stop at a sign, just let their weak gods violate the laws, and then claim morals as their high ground. LMAO!! Criminal Christos!!!

If you don't like porn being shown on your house walls, just look the other way, stay inside and let your neighbors enjoy it.

 

Actually if a mod would fix the title of this thread I'd appreciate it - I think I misunderstood the article (doesn't look like "the students' Christmas cards were taken away - looks like they weren't allowed to be displayed in public - which is still petty)

 

In all fairness, given students are a captive audience (does that reality sink in? Why are they a captive audience in the first place?), it would be appropriate to consider dispensing with any and all displays of religion in order to avoid the possibility of forcing, even for a few seconds, any person to exercise a religion that he or she doesn't believe. The question then becomes, can you have free expression of religion in a public setting without initiating any force against others? Is there a line to draw and where do you draw it? I'm all ears.

 

If you allow one religion, you must allow all religions. And there is a difference between religion and state public property, and religion and federal public property. If a school system denied all federal aid, then the state could practice religion as they chose. IMO

We see when political opinion is expressed in the federal sense, the protesters can be shuffled off to a free speech zone. So the same occurs with religion in schools, right out the door. I am surprised the cards were allowed to stay in a school room.

 

Why don't you object to Halloween being in schools? After all, it's a religious holiday that originated from the druids, and Wiccans and neopagans celebrate Halloween as one of their holidays. You don't care about the first amendment; you just are prejudiced against Christianity. Pagan holidays in school? That's okay. But Christian holidays in school are wrong.

Political correctness is one thing, but discrimination against Christianity is just plain wrong.

 

Why not just 'ban' the days of the week from being named in public schools? (ex. Thursday = Thor's day, Friday = Freya's Day), etc?

Sure the old Norse and Roman religions may not exist, but there are 'neopagans' who worship Thor, Odin, etc. So eventually for all we know, some bored atheist might file a lawsuit claiming that students hearing a teacher say "Thursday" is "the state forcing them to worship Thor".

 

sounds like some teachers could not keep religious propaganda out of the classroom, so now they have rules to follow, some fanatical religious teachers ruined it for everyone

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