WAR READY: Trump deploys TANKS to Estonia as NATO builds up HUGE army on Russian border

Have you been a part of NATO? I'm guessing no, because if you did you'd memorize the mission:

The Soviet Union was dissolved. I'm glad I could help clear up your confusion

 

NATO installs military bases at our border. This is agression, plain and simple.

NATO was CREATED, I remind you, to oppose USSR. The dissoluted USSR. The Poland+Lithuania+Latvia+Kazakhstan+Belarus+Russia+Ukraine+Estonia+... USSR. Not Russia.

 

NATO creates bases at the request of it's members when they feel threatened and though the U.S.S.R. dissolved Russia did not. In fact Putin clearly wants to rebuild it.

 

Rebuild WHAT? There clearly is no restoration for Union, he never made any statements about restoring Union, nor the Empire, nor he will be supported in such decidion by the masses. We are all for moving in future forward - but a renewed and modern society. If your media 'forgot' to mention that - feel free to ask me.

 

Might I bother to point out Georgia and Crimea?

 

With all due respect ...

But what the hell is that for an unimportant message please?

4 Main Battle Tanks and 15 Infantry Fighting Vehicles + whatever of support like logistics etc. ... and this is the greatest reinforcement since the cold war? Hello? Is everything still clear?

Man ... it is a platoon Main Battle Tanks (what has almost everywhere in the world 4 tanks per platoon) and about a company of Armored Infantry! or to say it clearer for the US people: 1 platoon M1A1 or M1A2 + 1 company Bradley IFV!

Are you kidding me or is your seriousness with this oh so important message? If it is your seriousness, then I lie once again sleep and stuck this message under the category "totally unimportant"!

People, if here had now been reported that, e.g. The 1st US Armored Division will be moved to Poland ... or one of the Armored Cavalry Regiments in the Baltic States, then I would wake up! But a ridiculous platoon battle armor and a ridiculous company Armored Infantry ... honestly?

 

You might. I remind you - quarter of century ago all the soviet states were part of one, same state. Same Union, and now - there are sovereign states. Not all minorities living on territory of these states approve the decidions of governments. It was so in Chechnya, Abkhasia, South Ossetia, and in Crimea and in Donbass. These - are most notable examples. Various separatist, nationalist and xenopatriotic movements exist across all of post-soviet space. Solving these disputes - is hard. We try. Sometimes - they escalate.

As for problem with russians in 'close abroad' - it indeed does exists. One of my friends have been born in russian family and lived her whole life in same city she was born - in Astana, Kazakhstan republic. She had been persecuted for year by local nationalist group in her part of city, that was harassing russians. It was like a street gang of some sort, and I remember she, not long before she migrated to her BF in Moscow, said they threw a brick in her window. Her parents were medics, who went to Astana on practice from the medical schools, met there and settled. I am not sure if they are in Kazakhstan, or migrated, if maybe they left Astana and left their apartment to the daughter - sincerely, I do not know.

And I know, that there is way not always a violent persecution, but while before people were certain they will be able to travel to their relatives in other parts of Union freely, and will be free to use russian language, that was common in Union - in 1991 they faced a new borders being drawn and new laws made, different constitutions and different languages used on the state level.

Collapse of Union was not just tradegy for russians, it was tradegy for any person of any ethnic stuck in 'foreign' state, not recognising either the language of their ethnic, used in their family, or common russian language, that majority of soviet citizens knew. Being ukrainian in Kazakhstan or Turkmen in Belarus was as hard as being a russian in these states. Politically dissolution of Union was in a way a normal event, concluding the socialistic era and Cold War, continuation of processes started with the warm up in USA-USSR relations, deconstruction of Berlin wall and unification of Germany, pro-democratic politics et cetera. But on personal level for many people it was a family-splitting tradegy, and for minorities, whose rights for self-identification were not recognized during dissolution, and who been 'locked' in states they did not desired to be part of, it was a tradegy too - and we still face consequences of that, we still have these disputes existing - whithin Federation included. And we try dealing with them.

 

The best thing for Russians living " behind the lines" is perhaps migrate to russia itself, clearly many of them are not welcome in the neighboring states!

 

Seems Putin has lamented for the former SU, actions in Georgia and Ukraine seem to indicate that.

 

UN. That rarely gets anything accomplished, since China or Russia veto half of everything.

 

People lived there their whole life, their parents lived there, possibly grandparents, even. No state and no society has right to drive people out of their homes because of their nationality.

You may have whichever delusions you want, Zoom, sober people understand that there will be no reconstruction for the Union.

United Nations is garant of peace on the globe. It is to stay, and is to be recognised. As for 'vetos' of my country - present proofs, if you bring it in.

For once, get yourself to work and get the proofs. Not one, or two, since you say our representatives veto everything - get proofs that will be showing this tendency.
If you accuse - proove. If you cannot proove your accusations - they will be dismissed.

 

Again - I bring your attention - the moment I made a point, immidiately appeared Zoom and tried to pull attention away, by stating about my country vetoing everything. I find tendency of this happening almost every time I make a good, solid, statement - being suspitious. As if somebody tries to silence me.

 

Hey Litwin, you're not keeping up with the news. The question is when will the 'broke' EU start paying for their fair share of Nato... as was stipulated in the original agreements?

Trump is a brilliant man who is looking out for the US and the American people, as well as the survival of the world. To dissolve Nato and rid the world of the greatest evil that ever existed, he's telling the parasites to pay up. Now let's see how many will do so without pulling out.

 

Certainly this small force doesn't have the combat power to launch an offensive of any magnitude. It doesn't pose a threat to the Russians, but it does provide a target, a provocation. They are just a finger in Putin's eye and prodding to see what he does. He won't do much. However if he takes a few shots at these machines they can return fire. They are probably ordered to withdraw if fired upon, but they might get in a few shots before they leave. Their message is we are here and we are a fighting force. But these vehicles do not constitute an invasion of any sort.

If this deployment has any meaning at all, it signifies that Trump is not Obama. Moving a fighting force such as this into harms way is very unObama like.

 

One must also consider the primary function of NATO....when one member is attacked all defend it. Even Putin will not risk THAT.

 

Ever consider the reasons may be that the point you make is neither good or solid?

 

UN a guarantor of peace, funny you mention that since all 5 permanent members are the biggest arms dealers on the planet, lol. Careful how you phrasecthat Ninian, but I keep forgetting you're rather naive.

 

Trump looks out after his own interests first and foremost, he didn't get to where he's at by being a " nice guy", Jean.

 

Trump is doing no more than what has been arranged for some time, certainly since before his election. I doubt he even knows about this, let alone cares.

But of course his loyal lickspittles will spring to carry water for him. 'See, he hates the Russians, he wouldn't do this otherwise, now can all these silly investigations stop so we can get down to Making America Bigoted and Fasc....er...Great, again?

 

Well Ninian, much has been vetoed by Russia that didn't fall in line with its thinking.

 

Proofs. And many. Otherwise - dismissed.

In the meantime - I will not be silenced:

 

Dismissed...as you say, Russians have a problem, return to russia, otherwise I won't be silenced, understand?

 

No silencing..just pointing out Ninian.

 

Quite the opposite - I want you to talk MORE. To tell when does my country "vetoes" UN deicidions, to provide proofs of that it happens "often", as you assume.

 

Putin and his men even openly declare it