Warp Drive or Hyperspace? Moi Across an immense, unguarded, ethereal border, Canadians, cool and unsympathetic, regard our America with envious eyes and slowly and surely draw their plans against us.
Hyperspace because it is magnitudes faster than slow ass, grandma's molasses syrup warp drive. A star destroy can cross the entire (other) galaxy in a matter of weeks if not days. Meanwhile it would have taken Voyager 70 years to get home except for their cheating.
Stranger things have happened. http://www.iflscience.com/space/nasa-reveals-latest-warp-drive-ship-designs/
I worry about the effect of more and more warping on the fabric of space-time creating a dimensional rift or tear. That done, it could go malignant like a running rip in fabric. Is there a smog effect to hyperspace as there is with warp drive? Vote Hyperspace. Moi
Warp Drive or Hyperspace? Why rebel against a simple question? Read above. Some of us "get it". If you don't, lots of other threads to enjoy.
Warp Drive has been proven to be theoretically possible. Hyperspace is only a speculation. There is no real proof it exists at all and no real reason to say that FTL speeds should be possible within it even if does.
Isn't hyperspace a different space-time itself? It seems to me one would be more likely to create a rift or tear in the process of passing from one to the other, as hyperspace travel would require. The currently theorized method of Warp Drive doesn't rip or tear anything, it just sortof elongates space (or the object moving through it... depending on your perspective).
With string theory pretty much anything is possible. But I figure that a variation of a Warp Drive will happen first.
Warp Drive has to be possible eventually simply because the future would be boring without it. Last thing I need to be worrying about is my Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Great-Grandkids being bored. So, yeah, that will be figured out some day.
Faster than light travel has many issues beyond figuring out how to do it, thus the warp idea makes the most sense physiologically and the hyper idea is hypothetical fantasy. I imagine a warp system being feasible in a century or less and interdimensional travel never.
Hyperspace. Because it actually makes sense physically to have extra dimensions in the universe. Warp drives are pretty wonky, they need negative energy (??) to work, I don't buy it.
"We", as human 'flesh-and-bone' creatures, will use neither 'hyperspace' or 'warp drives'. After we have developed into, or, 'evolved' into some other kind of life-form, we may 'travel' throughout the universe, but that is not something that we human "meat-bags" are ever going to be capable of. As humans, we will explore our solar system, probably using rather conventional transport vehicles (nuclear, hydrogen, solar, etc.), but, I keep remembering -- "The stars are not for man.". Arthur C. Clarke, "Childhood's End"
"Childhood's End" was one work of Clarke's I despised. Great author, so much fine work, but not that one. Talk about a nightmare ... that's it.
I would agree that the made-for-TV version of "Childhood's End" that came out two years ago was just awful! They took Clarke's under-appreciated masterpiece, mangled it, "modernized" it, and made it boring and vapid. But the message that, "the stars are not for man" is true, nevertheless. Last night I was more-or-less forced into watching the latest Star Trek offering (with Chris Pine, Zachary Quinto, et al) called "Beyond". All I could think as the movie slogged along through one shallow, contrived, special-effects extravaganza after another was, "Do people really believe that anything like this is going to happen in two hundred years?"
Warp speed is based on contorting the fabric of Space Time that mimics traveling at speeds unobtainable when stuck in Einstein Relativity. Traveling at Warp speed is not in random directions but, purposeful destinations. So with repeated bending of the Fabric of Space Time, a rip occurs that could terminate Moi's universe. Hyperspace at worst would be like punching a hole, a portal from our Space Time to there. Those portals may exist naturally or created via a "Jump Gate" of some sort that large military ships will have built into their vessel. So I find a rip in the fabric of Space Time more problematic than punching a hole if a natural one doesn't exist. Moi Remember the Battle of The Line! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_the_Line How many Minbari does it take to change a light bulb? Forget it. Just when there about to get the job done, they give up.
I did read the original book, along with many other works of his. I admire him, I simply despise that particular book for the darkness I find in it. I very much enjoy Star Trek, not all of it, but a lot of it. I certainly do not see it as anything more than fantasy. An enjoyable fantasy, like so many fantasy works of fiction are. I do understand that people have hopes and dreams of that level of science and technology being realized some day. On some of it they are correct. On the more fantastical, a good deal less correct right up to the point of being absurdly delusional. The advances in science needed to bend the fabric of "space-time" on a scale to move a big spaceship (or a pea) are conceivable only in works of fiction. But that's alright. They aren't hurting anybody. Their conventions move lots of money in the economy and some nerds get laid along the way. Forces for good right there, no doubt of it. Someday humans will push out into the Solar System with such technologies as they can develop. Not all of it either, though much will be done via robotic and semi-autonomous probes. There will be science outposts, big business seeking ways to profit. The adventurous spirit of many humans will make this happen. It will be very difficult. People will suffer great hardships. People will die. But people will do it anyway. It will remain that way for a very, very, very long time. What comes next is unknowable and vastly beyond my remaining years. So I do not worry about it.
So does that mean you vote Warp Drive and not Hyperspace? Dune Fans Alert Was the Dune moving you here to there Hyperspace that was drug "spice" mediated? Or warping space with the help of some really prime stuff
Dune was the planet Arrakis where the sandworms lived which secreted Melange. The only known source in the universe in the first book. Melange could help you see possible futures but you had to be susceptible so they're was an intense 5000 year+ breeding program going on. Melange was used by the guild to navigate, the mutated humans were called guild navigators. The technology warped space but they needed the navigators to see where they were going. Later the IX developed technology to navigate without melange or humans. By the end of the books they worked out how to move the worms to create more "Dune" planets and create melange using genetically modified women (Essentially wombs on demand) which they had been using for clones, etc..
