Was 2020 a ‘Typical Year’ for US Deaths Despite COVID-19?

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  1. Pro_Line_FL

    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Claim: A meme accurately reports that the U.S. recorded roughly 2.9 million deaths in 2020 — almost the same total as previous years — despite COVID-19.

    Verdict: False. Deaths jumped by about 15%

    Was 2020 a ‘Typical Year’ for US Deaths Despite COVID-19?
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/typical-year-covid-deaths/

    Final mortality data for this year will not be available for months. But preliminary numbers suggest that the United States is on track to see more than 3.2 million deaths this year, or at least 400,000 more than in 2019.

    U.S. deaths increase most years, so some annual rise in fatalities is expected. But the 2020 numbers amount to a jump of about 15%, and could go higher once all the deaths from this month are counted.
     
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    UnapologeticallyAmerican Well-Known Member

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    Probably due to the spiking crime rates in democrat cities where they are defunding their police.
    https://time.com/5922082/2020-gun-violence-homicides-record-year/
     
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    When you look at the citation, snopes, doesn't seem to be a credible resource of authority here. Perhaps once the CDC numbers or NIH numbers are released, we can have a discussion.
     
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    Eeeemmmm...no, we did not have an additional 400 000 homicides in US.

    Such things are easy to check, but its even easier to just say it out of ignorance.

    It is true that homicides are up, and not just in dem cities, but the raise has been equally sharp on repub cities as well.

    The state of the union is what it is. Thanks Trump.
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's cool. I was not seeking for your agreement. The numbers are from CDC, although the last months are estimated because official numbers are not out yet. One thing we know for sure is that deaths accelerated even more towards the end of the year, so the final numbers are likely to be even worse.
     
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    Suicides and drug overdoses are way up.. and as noted, homicides
     
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    The claim is that this year was an average year, and that claim is false, and you seem to agree with that.
     
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    The destruction wrought by the hysterical reaction to this flu (with at least a 99.98% survival rate) is horrendous. Enjoy you brave new world, you seem sufficiently myopic to ignore the misery that's forthcoming
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We have lost more Americans to this virus in less than one year than to combat in the entire WW-2.

    Horrendous? Yes.
     
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    I though everyone killed by COVID was murdered by Trump. Hard to keep it all straight.
     
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    2020 is the year democracy was erased and the country became a totalitarian corporate-fascist plutocracy for which all media and nearly all other info sources are corporate propaganda by their corporate owners.
     
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    We lose more folks to heart disease and cancer. What's your point?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The point is that we have lost an extra 350 000 Americans in one year, which is more than we lost during WW-2.

    It shouldn't be so complicated.
     
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    Sorry you're lamenting 2 million Americans haven't died per the Democratic Party's agenda and goal.
     
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    Eh....?
     
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    Yea, I'm going to call BS on that one. They're not rulling out people who die from flu or pneumonia or AMI, they're lumping them all in with Covid. So there really is no way to know what the true number is
     
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    How many times have bodies stacked up so much we are buying multiple storage facilies.

    How many have hospitals across the country become so full that sick people being left to die because we have no workers to staff the beds and supplies to care of them?
     
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    Whatever gets you through the night. I am not looking for your agreement.

    The OP is true. Period.
     
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    ~ 2020 was not a typical year. The death of free speech was quite unusual .
     
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    So, the superficial approach. Got it.
     
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    Nothing superficial about 350 000 dead Americans.

    Well, maybe it is superficial to you.
     
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    One thing we know for sure in this Age of Covid, this time of universal deception, is that all sorts of numbers related to deaths and cases have been manipulated by the gate keepers, and that the whistleblowers pointing this out have been censored and vilified.

    So, are we all admiring the Emperor's New Clothes?
     
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    Pro_Line_FL Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    "Covid, covid, covid....we'll never hear it again after the elections" -DT

    Except........it didn't go away. We're hitting 4000 deaths per day and the total number of deaths has surpassed he combat deaths in WW-2.

    Your 'whistleblowers' are conspiracy theorists.
     
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    These deaths are not “instead of” but “as well as”

    in fact the toal excess deaths are going to be much much worse as the crowding caused by the Corona virus is going to impact care for other disorders driving up those deaths too
     
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    No, the whistleblowers are truth tellers. That is why they have been censored by every mainstream media outlet including social media.

    The "crisis" exists only in the media. Bogus tests never meant for diagnostic purposes are the cornerstone of "the crisis."

    The CARES Act details the plunder of the US Treasury. You have been a victim of psyops, and you are too deeply in denial to grasp it.

    Life goes on....
     

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